If only there were some way to check if that’s what you said. Wait, there is! And it isn’t!
Stadium Discussion
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If only there were some way to check if that’s what you said. Wait, there is! And it isn’t!
Does New England do this one? It was originally England Belongs to Me by Cock Sparrer. A friend of mine's band here in Connecticut used to do a New England version (not tied to the Revs or football as far as I know) but I wouldn't be surprised if they used it
My problem is that MLS have a preference for big tv market cities to enhance the tv contract.
I think the opposite and would rather see cities with rabid fanbases being accepted, even if they are from a small TV market. Sacramento and cinncinatti come to mind.
As a neutral, i love watching on tv soccer games with packed stands. I'd rather watch that than watching New England play in the middle of nowhere on a gridiron.
While you're general point is somewhat valid, the Revs are kind of a bad example. Yeah they're in a "big market", but they aren't playing in the city that develops that market. They're playing close to an hour out that isn't accessible by public transportation.
I think there's valid room for criticism that that continues to happen. But if they are playing in Boston, I think it's a much different picture.
I think the Revs would do great with either a shared stadium in Boston (or at least closer a lot closer as Boston proper is tiny) or their own stadium even out next to the Patriots. Of course a combo of both is ideal, but one or the other would get them a major bump in attendance I think.
Your original post claimed that 90% of your drivers cane from countriess that loved football and your hazy recollection was that 90% of your drivers came from countriess in which people played football. Those things are different!
What role do you think the high prices at Yankee Stadium contribute to the lower attendance?
I don’t think it contributes, since it’s s pretty much a given that stadium prices are inflated (as are bar prices, movie concession prices, etc).
The main reasons for declining attendance IMO are: novelty of a new club at Yankee stadium has worn off, haven’t proven to be a huge winner yet, and a lot of initial mls fans are metrostars/red bull fans of old. If this team wins MLS Cup and starts marketing that as a whole, you might get some new sidewalk fans, and you might get some Red Bull fans joining the ride. If and when we get a new stadium, that will introduce another attendance spike.
Just watch, Atlanta’s attendance will drop over the next few years too, as their novelty wears off.
New York is not a big sports city. Yes there are die hards, but a huge pop are transplants. Many fair weather fans in the city.
I'm transplanted from a city that simply didn't have a team before I left (Minneapolis -> NYC in 2014).
Go Packers, Brewers, and Pigeons!
I was thinking about this post and remembered the Along These Lines spot that the club did last year: https://www.nycfc.com/post/2016/09/28/along-these-lines.
I remember thinking at the time that it did a pretty good job of capturing the allure of the city as well as the diversity that you talk about. Having said that, I'm a transplant. What did you think?
portland was not 100% filled with timber stuff....there was more Oregon football stuff than timbers stuff in streets. not saying there was nothing timbers at all ( still lots of ads and billboards a in a few main streets, but mostly near the stadium location) but to make it sound like its 100% timbers is not true. hell, my uber drivers when i went were talking to me about the blazers before the timbers.
to me lots of comparisons are because other cities are smaller and we are close to 9 million and have two teams in almost every major sport...so the city will never be "unified" in any sport really. thats just how nyc is and always will be.
for your last two points about "wooing" people who cheer for foreign team and or convincing people to embrace the sport....thats been the same battle soccer and MLS have been facing since its existance...nothing new there and even harder in a city this size with thousands of other things to do/enjoy in its city limits.
for the whole ownership....yes i like the more orange to try and use at least some city identity ( city of nyc flag)....as for everything else it comes with the territory of being owned of CFG. does it stop some people from being a fan of the team? maybe, others dont care ( or not aware) and follow team
hell i see more and more people with more nycfc gear in streets ( older people and younger people...hell even the security guard in my college had a hat the other day) ...if its because they are a fan of team or because it was a gift someone gave them i dont know....but at least awareness of that logo can bring curiosity to the team.
the alternative of course to all of this is we could not have a team.
This last part is very valid and I do think there have been some attempts at that, just not nearly as much as the typical "Your City" stuff that is everywhere.
One example of that is
Christopher Jee example with the "Along these lines". That was a fantastic way to paint the team as true New York but in a very gritty and NYC way.Another way that has slightly been touched on by the club somewhat recently is this using the Pigeons moniker a bit. I'll go ahead and state that I absolutely love the nickname (I know a lot of others don't) and that it is organic. In that regard, I hope the club doesn't use it enough to make it seem much more corporate and forced upon us, but it is another method of playfully marketing the club.
And then as I'm typing all this up, I couldn't help but realize that those two methods above are really ways to say "You're NYC, this team is NYC, etc.", and try and get people to identify the club with the city. So in essence, the same end goal as the other dull marketing, but in a manner that isn't, well, quite as dull.
Another great post. The lack of identity is something that holds this organization back. It's why when I tell people that I'm a fan of NYCFC, most people are like, what's that? Never heard of them. I get the desire for CFG to have some sort of corporate synergy mumbo-jumbo with branding across all their teams but names like United, FC, or United-FC have become so generic they just get lost in the crowd. I hate to harp back to the whole pigeon discussion but at least it's something that gets your attention, is unique, and symbolizes something.
Please provide some evidence of your claim. I will even accept anecdotal evidence.
I think most fans want to have an authentic soccer experience that we see in Europe or sth america.
Its hard to have that in a baseball stadium
Oh i agree 100%. Boston is a prime MLS market. It's a pity New England arent playing in it.
Its also a pity the Krafts continue to get a free ride.
hard to do in many MLS stadiums.....you only get the portland/sounders/ with that ....orlando started well but apparently people stopped going ( according to kreis )
i went to denver for the nycfc game and its great stadium but place was freaking dead until they scored and even then it was just bit of cheer in half empty stadium. oh they do the iceland chant in every corner
