Stadium Discussion

Where Do You Want The Stadium?

  • Manhattan

    Votes: 54 16.7%
  • Queens

    Votes: 99 30.6%
  • Brooklyn

    Votes: 19 5.9%
  • Staten Island

    Votes: 7 2.2%
  • Westchester

    Votes: 18 5.6%
  • The Bronx

    Votes: 113 34.9%
  • Long Island

    Votes: 6 1.9%
  • Dual-Boroughs

    Votes: 3 0.9%
  • Etihad Island

    Votes: 5 1.5%

  • Total voters
    324
https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/mls/article225609050.html

“There’s only one other facility that has done it, and that’s Yankee Stadium with New York FC. The difference there is there’s an equity piece with the Yankees and that particular team,” Bowers said. “There’s a million-dollar-a-game commitment by the team to the Yankees to overcome some of those operational challenges, none of which we think is really in the cards here given the conversations we’ve had with MLS Miami.”


CFG has already paid $68 million to the Yankees for conversion. Yikes.

What on earth is the money going towards? Hard not to call bullshit on a figure like that.
 
What on earth is the money going towards? Hard not to call bullshit on a figure like that.
"Overcoming some of those operational challenges" means "CFG is incredibly rich and we're going to soak them with a million-dollar pure-profit fee, or they can try to find somewhere else in the city that will take them."
 
"Overcoming some of those operational challenges" means "CFG is incredibly rich and we're going to soak them with a million-dollar pure-profit fee, or they can try to find somewhere else in the city that will take them."

So you really think the Yankees are essentially charging us $17 million a year in rent with a straight face? And that CFG is handing over the largest stadium rental fee in the history of sports with no fuss whatsoever?

Personally I think the dude from Miami is full of shit.
 
So you really think the Yankees are essentially charging us $17 million a year in rent with a straight face? And that CFG is handing over the largest stadium rental fee in the history of sports with no fuss whatsoever?

Personally I think the dude from Miami is full of shit.
I'm surprised people are shocked. Stadiums are expensive. See how much it costs to book a venue for a concert.
 
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I'm surprised people are shocked. Stadiums are expensive. See how much it costs to book a venue for a concert.

I mean, just as a rough comparison, here's what NFL teams are roughly paying:
https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/raiders-nfl/stadium-and-rent-details-for-all-32-nfl-teams/ (The Patriots pay the most at $3 million a year)

West Ham pays about $3 million too: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45439883

And we seriously think the Yankees are charging their own business partners more than five times that? And our source is some dude in Miami?
 
A million a game commitment... maybe they are guaranteeing them a million a game total which includes food, mercy sales, tickets etc. then CFG and NYY split the rest 80/20.

This kind of scenario sounds a lot more likely, but the numbers still seem way off. According to this report (yeah yeah, it's The Sun), Spurs are losing about $1.3 mn per game at Wembley - a stadium more than twice the size of ours, where attendances are often double or triple what we get at YS https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/7832147/tottenham-wembley-white-hart-lane/

It would be a disingenuous way for the dude from Miami to spin the numbers in the first place, but either way there's simply no chance we're losing out on that kind of revenue.
 
I'm not even sure the guy meant that we're paying 1 mil in rent every game. he says that there's a million dollar a game by the team to the yankees to overcome those challenges. that could mean that the yankees are expecting to make a mil a game in revenue, not that we're necessarily paying that as rent.

anyway what does this guy know. everyone on reddit is just taking him on his word but who the hell even is this guy.
 
"...appalled at the prospect of giving giant subsidies to the world’s most valuable company, led by its richest man."
Yes, exactly. Bring your company here if you want to take advantage of our talent pool and other resources, but fuck right the hell off with thinking you should get any public money to do so.

Similarly, while I'm in favor of CFG spending gobs of their endless wealth to build a stadium here, there's no reason they should get any kind of subsidy to do so.
 
"...appalled at the prospect of giving giant subsidies to the world’s most valuable company, led by its richest man."
Yes, exactly. Bring your company here if you want to take advantage of our talent pool and other resources, but fuck right the hell off with thinking you should get any public money to do so.

Similarly, while I'm in favor of CFG spending gobs of their endless wealth to build a stadium here, there's no reason they should get any kind of subsidy to do so.
I agree, but the problem is that if you took away all of the benefits given to Amazon, the opposition it is facing would barely decrease. Most of it is not so principled. You have local residents who don't want change in the neighborhood, especially if it raises rents and prices. And you have groups who just want a payoff.

I think that even if NYCFC - whenever it announces - comes in completely clean, it faces similar obstacles.
 
Most of it is not so principled.
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I agree, but the problem is that if you took away all of the benefits given to Amazon, the opposition it is facing would barely decrease. Most of it is not so principled. You have local residents who don't want change in the neighborhood, especially if it raises rents and prices. And you have groups who just want a payoff.

I think that even if NYCFC - whenever it announces - comes in completely clean, it faces similar obstacles.
Exactly.
 
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