Kreis Out
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As down as I am with Kreis, I say give him another year, let him find players that fit whatever he's trying to do as long as it's not Grabavoy and Wingert.
That will never happen. MCFC needs to find their own coach to run the team they want it run. It's obvious they disagree. Not entirely Kreis' fault but he has shown to not be able to manage this particular team.
He will find players just like them or Nemec. He did a lot of the scouting.
Not sure I agree with that. Think you'll find CFG giving coaches more time before sacking them than most people would give them credit for, but we'll see. Of course, whether people will approve of Kreis being given a second season...
Got to admit, I'm generally far more patient than most would be regarding managers and season expectations and so on, and so I was never really that bothered about our form as I always had the first season down as a write-off regardless of results, but even I'm starting to change my mind on Kreis. I'm hoping that his team selections are just down to the little things about building a squad that the fans don't see, but I can't help starting to agree that I'm not sure he knows how to build a squad from scratch.
Here's an article reflecting many of the same thoughts expressed here in the forums.
It was written by John Harbour on vavel.com.
The Man in Seat 9: Memo To Jason Kreis, Wrong Call
http://www.vavel.com/en-us/soccer/533622-the-man-in-seat-9-memo-to-jason-kries-wrong-call.html
It was written by John Harbour on vavel.com.
The Man in Seat 9: Memo To Jason Kreis, Wrong Call
http://www.vavel.com/en-us/soccer/533622-the-man-in-seat-9-memo-to-jason-kries-wrong-call.html
Buried lede - the drunks sit in section 215. Might have found my new section.
He doesn't deserve another year. I was on the fence. But how he beats down his team and throw the team under the bus after the loss is horrible. He basically thinks he is not at any fault here - not good for morale and sure way to lose the locker room. You can't place the blame on the entire team. I noticed when several players get subbed off last game, he just sat there emotionless, did not acknowledge them or shake hands....no leadership material here. I have seen too many executives like him in my life, fast corporate ladder climber, talk his/her way into higher job, the whole team suffers because of his/her lack of experience and strategic mistakes, then s/he starts blame everyone around and shuffling teams hoping next round will bring better luck. Victory is not going to happen that way
You can be a dick and win.
You can be a nice guy and lose.
You can't be a dick and lose.
You can be a nice guy and lose.
You can't be a dick and lose.
Look I know CFG is patient buts that's because man city finished 2nd in the PL not at the bottom of the table! I think kreis isn't the right man for the job and will be in Seattle next season when sigi gets sacked
If that's correct about Petke, then perhaps he wouldn't be a good fit. I just meant to say that the team's management has to be aware if him, and is surely considering him as well as all other options.
Really the best-case scenario is that the Galaxy win another championship, so that Arena can feel like he's done everything he can do out there. Then we pay him whatever it takes to bring him home, back to a place where no one mocks his accent.
When we see how good the on-field relationship already is between Robbie Keane and newcomer Giovani dos Santos, we have to believe that this is down to Arena. It would be great having that sage eye overseeing the training and deploying of our players.
If MCFC doesnt win title , Pep Guardiola to MCFC , Manuel Pellegrini to NYCFC. There has been long speculation of Pep joining MCFC and CFG extended Pellegrinis contract. Maybe its a prep for his move out to accommodate Pep and take over in MLS . . . . Its a long shot but its always fun to read into things lmao
If CFG wasnt happy with Kreis then why would Angelino be here? He is a better player now than he was in June and is closer to helping out mcfc now than he was before he came. Why would anyone think Kreis bosses believe he should be fired? He got a free pass for this season when mcfc kept lampard.
I'm probably not so low on Kreis as most people, but one of the most important parts of a coach is making adjustments throughout a game. While I can't say I've paid too much attention to him during any of our home games, away games and watching on TV I don't remember a single instance of him standing up, barking instructions, gesturing, etc. It's just a very strange way of coaching. Maybe he trusts players to make those changes? He's got to be the only coach in MLS that doesn't walk the sidelines constantly. I just don't see how he does that. He's a huge outlier in that regard.
There are few people in MLS that know more about the intricacies of the league than Kreis. From league structure to the financial restraints the league operates under. This is not to mention his success as both player and MLS cup winning manager. You want to argue his tactics, team selection and what seems to be loyalties to his former RSL players? Fine there are points to be made there but let's not run him out of town after a season that had so many moving parts least of all a roster of cast offs and I would say 2 DP'S that were forced on the team.
Let Kreis get the players he wants in here next year and start to be able to put his system together. This was never gonna happen this year as you can see how it's turned into a marketing year to put asses in seats. That's not Kreis' fault.
Let Kreis get the players he wants in here next year and start to be able to put his system together. This was never gonna happen this year as you can see how it's turned into a marketing year to put asses in seats. That's not Kreis' fault.
I always love the #MLSGenius argument about a guy who fucked up our first uniquely MLS experience in that dopey draft.
I'm not saying that's the only part that makes or breaks a coach, but I think shouting out orders and showing a little emotion and direction is a positive quality.
I am frustrated beyond belief with Kreis and the way the team has performed this year...but I think that showing him the boot after this year is short-sighted, given everything that has gone on this season. The only reason I could see his firing justified is if there is a full-scale mutiny from the players (i.e. they stop showing up to practice) or there is a major blow-up with CFG. The Kreis "mic-drop" on the last press conference was probably more frustration than anything else.
I have the funny feeling that if Kreis gets the boot, he goes to Seattle (who boots Sigi after they lose again in the playoffs this year), reunites with Lagerwey, and wins a Cup there.
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