I'm betting the first one happens, and that makes the second less likely. Of course, if Dax stinks up the place, reverse that prediction.
Either way, one of the two should be weakened at least.
2017 Roster Discussion
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Either way, one of the two should be weakened at least.
Just some stats to consider a la Hamid v Johnson from this season:
Hamid has faced 98 shots, the most of anyone in MLS.
Johnson has faced 60 shots, the least of any keeper to start at least 15 games (testament to our defense).
Hamid is ranked #2 in save percentage at 75%.
Johnson is ranked #10 at 67%
My point of this post is not to turn this into Hamid vs Johnson, or to say that Johnson is a poor keeper. That is certainly not the case. But the fact that Hamid has faced 38 more shots than Johnson in one less game in goal speaks volumes about the talent around him. I think it is more a perception thing that Hamid is less tactically astute whereas the reality sometimes he is forced into these terrible positions by his team.
just my 2 cents, and they're probably only worth a penny at that. Sean Johnson is light years ahead of Saunders, and he has done great for us this year. I just think Hamid is the cream of the crop for MLS goalkeepers.
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All fair points.
I just like to judge a keeper by looking at the goals he gives up rather than his saves.
Now, I'm not about to actually do that right now, but anecdotally, i don't really recall any this season that Johnson could have done much about. I recall several where Hamid has looked ridiculously incompetent.
No doubt he should be better than SJ. I just think any other keeer would get killed by fans if they pulled some of the stuff Bill has over the last few years.
Also said NYCFC has 200k of allocation funds.
No way we sell Harrison this year. After we win the title (because obviously) we'll talk to him and offer a young DP contract and if he still wants to go we sell for max allocation money and have our version of a rebuild year.
He has my blessing to leave this summer.
We can put JLew there or get a DP if Pirlo leaves.
We can put JLew there or get a DP if Pirlo leaves.
You're nuts! If the front office did that, I don't think I'd renew any of my season tickets. We are in the middle of a title chase.
In any event, I'm not going to stress this rumor. Maybe I'm giving the FO too much credit, but I don't think even they would be so stupid. They would get murdered on this board, twitter and the media, and rightfully so. You don't start kneecapping a team widely considered one of the title favorites.
This is a shitpost account. Smart MLS fans knows not to listen to anything this account says. They only post shit like this to get followers. DELETE! DELETE!
Not to mention that selling him now would not allow us to maximize on GAM on the sale.
Agreed with the above. If he moves this winter, fine. We cash out, and it's probably going to be a good career move for Jack.
But to move him this summer would be nuts. His price isn't going to go down in 6 months.
Having a DP spot and 600k extra GAM to work with this offseason could be fun. Hopefully we don't lose both Harrison and Herrera this winter though.
But to move him this summer would be nuts. His price isn't going to go down in 6 months.
Having a DP spot and 600k extra GAM to work with this offseason could be fun. Hopefully we don't lose both Harrison and Herrera this winter though.
Have to pay the wage bill, don't have to incorporate the transfer fee. Realistically, what wages could he be offered over there? Celtic maybe pays him 10k a week. MAYBE. If Everton sign him, it's to loan him out. I guess he has more value because of his passport, but wages are wages. We have 3rd year and 4th year options and they will be picked up.
Right, but at those wages (or higher) he's either a DP or a TAM player. And anybody that gets a $5M Transfer is probably going to get more than $10k/wk, no? Where's
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sbrylski ?Right, but at those wages (or higher) he's either a DP or a TAM player. And anybody that gets a $5M Transfer is probably going to get more than $10k/wk, no? Where's
I don't know what color you're asking me to provide, but isn't there a rule of thumb that says yearly wages are roughly equal to the transfer fee divided by 4? I thought I read that once. So if we sell Jack for $6 million, we can expect his wages to be ~$1.5 million per year.
That's the info I was looking for, so nearly a $29k/wk salary. Forget about TAM, that'd make him a DP.
Right, but at those wages (or higher) he's either a DP or a TAM player. And anybody that gets a $5M Transfer is probably going to get more than $10k/wk, no? Where's
Negative ghostrider the pattern is full. That is not, repeat not, how that works under the modern ruleset.
What happens is that, with a transfer fee, the club decides how to allocate that fee over the course of the contract. Ergo, if you pay $5mm for a player on a $250k contract lasting 4 years, you are allowed to have a DP in year one for $5.25mm and then a non DP contract in subsequent years.
2015 that was how the ruleset worked, but with all the new TAM/GAM thank you ma'am rules you are allowed to play around with transfer fee's to your hearts content. As long as a minimum of 1/contract length is allocated on a year by year basis. But there is exactly zero maximum on that transfer fee allocation.
Long story short, we sell Harrison, we get a chunk of GAM and exactly zero way to keep him, unless Pirlo leaves. Mind you Harrison and any other NYCFC products have to be a competitive market bid, part of the CFG/MLS deal was that there is no special relationship between clubs in terms of players or transfer fees. At the end of the day, the official contract holder is MLS Inc. not the CFG subsidiary NYCFC Ltd. Thus all player sales will be conducted at market rates and will go to the highest bidder.
For the record, we are talking about two different things. I was talking about how to speculate on a player's new wages given their transfer fee. You're talking about MLS rules.
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