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Anyone (mildly) disappointed in Mullins that he went full on celebration against us when he scored the goal?

It wasn't as much of a celebration than when he scored for us against New England (his former team). It was fine.

Would I have preferred he do nothing, yeah.
 
This is a great point. Larger leagues have the benefit of an established private media structure around the league that spans the spectrum from the official league media outlet to tabloids and blogs. MLS clearly recognizes that this structure doesn't exist for the league and they have decided as an MLS entity to try to fill the content gap. So we get rumors/blogs/opinions etc from official MLS media outlets. Until the league grows to a point where private sources are providing a reasonable amount of content, I can't say I disagree with the approach. But I do understand it's strange when baselined against the type of content we are typically used to seeing from the official media outlets of other North American professional leagues.

.its all they got and will take anything they can get....so there will be people on a wide range of opinions. and its expected. Then again even legit media has its own biases so in the end you don't get much more with "professionalism".
 
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Anyone (mildly) disappointed in Mullins that he went full on celebration against us when he scored the goal?

nah...he seems to have knack to score against former teams....so who knows when he gets traded once again he may score against DC United as well.
 
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Anyone (mildly) disappointed in Mullins that he went full on celebration against us when he scored the goal?
I personally didn't care. His celebration was well within the bounds of good taste. Without knowing what's in his head, from what I know if his personality (and I mean that in a good way), I would have found it entirely disingenuous if he didn't celebrate at all. I actually find it to be somewhat self important when guys make a big show of not celebrating when they score against a former team, particularly in the case of a guy like Mullins who played here for 1+ seasons. I know, though, this is a topic many people have a lot more energy around than me. Its just not one of my hot buttons.

But, on the subject of celebrating against former teams, I have to bring out my favorite Emmanuel Adebayor clip for a while back. That, was probably over the top, though I'll admit it made me laugh at the time.

 
Anyone (mildly) disappointed in Mullins that he went full on celebration against us when he scored the goal?

Mullins was a spot player for us for less than 2 years who found his way to a situation that's much better for him. No way is there enough history between him and NYCFC for the don't celebrate rule to apply. There should only be two situations where the don't celebrate rule applies:

1. Long time fan favorite - The player was a regular starter for something like 5+ years at a club before leaving, preferably with a considerable amount of meaningful contributions to the club.
2. Home town kid - A high potential player that came up through the youth system of a club, made the first team, earned starter min, only to be sold to a bigger club because the team couldn't afford to keep them.

"Don't celebrate" is an endearing gesture that only means something when the player means a tremendous amount to the fans. Don't cheapen it by expecting every player that leaves a team to abide by it.

The celebration seemed appropriate, we traded him in a transaction that was the best option for both sides. He celebrated a reasonable amount, nothing over the top to indicate he was rubbing it in. At least he didn't kiss the badge, NE deserved that for not protecting him, it would have been too much with how things played out between him and NYCFC.
 
I personally didn't care. His celebration was well within the bounds of good taste. Without knowing what's in his head, from what I know if his personality (and I mean that in a good way), I would have found it entirely disingenuous if he didn't celebrate at all. I actually find it to be somewhat self important when guys make a big show of not celebrating when they score against a former team, particularly in the case of a guy like Mullins who played here for 1+ seasons. I know, though, this is a topic many people have a lot more energy around than me. Its just not one of my hot buttons.

But, on the subject of celebrating against former teams, I have to bring out my favorite Emmanuel Adebayor clip for a while back. That, was probably over the top, though I'll admit it made me laugh at the time.

Hahaha never seen that before. Hilarious
 
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Helpful for those of us who don't have long-dated MLS experience. I was sitting there with my daughter who saw the banner before me, and asked "Dad, who is Cobi Jones and why does he suck?" As I hadn't seen the banner at that point, I couldn't fathom how she came up with the question!
A few weeks ago, my 4 year old asked me if I knew who Cobi Jones was. I couldn't wait to hear how he came across Cobi Jones. It turns out that he was a guest on a kids show called Mutt 'n Stuff - a show with the kid of the Dog Whisperer and a bunch of dogs and Krofft puppets. Cobi taught Stuff and the dogs how to play soccer. Cobi is apparently hurting for gigs.

[Cobi's new teammates below]

 
A few weeks ago, my 4 year old asked me if I knew who Cobi Jones was. I couldn't wait to hear how he came across Cobi Jones. It turns out that he was a guest on a kids show called Mutt 'n Stuff - a show with the kid of the Dog Whisperer and a bunch of dogs and Krofft puppets. Cobi taught Stuff and the dogs how to play soccer. Cobi is apparently hurting for gigs.
Apparently David Villa beat him out for the Sesame Street gig, and rightly so!
 
Mullins was a spot player for us for less than 2 years who found his way to a situation that's much better for him. No way is there enough history between him and NYCFC for the don't celebrate rule to apply. There should only be two situations where the don't celebrate rule applies:

1. Long time fan favorite - The player was a regular starter for something like 5+ years at a club before leaving, preferably with a considerable amount of meaningful contributions to the club.
2. Home town kid - A high potential player that came up through the youth system of a club, made the first team, earned starter min, only to be sold to a bigger club because the team couldn't afford to keep them.

"Don't celebrate" is an endearing gesture that only means something when the player means a tremendous amount to the fans. Don't cheapen it by expecting every player that leaves a team to abide by it.

The celebration seemed appropriate, we traded him in a transaction that was the best option for both sides. He celebrated a reasonable amount, nothing over the top to indicate he was rubbing it in. At least he didn't kiss the badge, NE deserved that for not protecting him, it would have been too much with how things played out between him and NYCFC.

These situations are well put together, but I would like to add the caveat for those two situations, is that the move to another team is amicable. If its a bad break, then I'm ok with the player celebrating (though it would drive me mad as a fan of the team they left).
 
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It's crazy that the USA is one of the best nations in terms of goalkeeping but there aren't more than a handful of good to great keeper in MLS.
It's so disappointing. Every game around the league is a gaffe and howler fest. Understanding this helps me with Saunders stress.
 
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It's so disappointing. Every game around the league is a gaffe and howler fest. Understanding this helps me with Saunders stress.
I mean, yeah, you can pick out stupid keeper stuff in every league. But Saunders is weekly rather than a grab bag from the rest of the league keepers.

It's also not as different as we make it out to be in other leagues. Most leagues have gk horror shows every week, and that is with far better defenses. It's just those defenses don't give them the same number of opportunities as the typical MLS backline.

My take anyway.
 
I mean, yeah, you can pick out stupid keeper stuff in every league. But Saunders is weekly rather than a grab bag from the rest of the league keepers.

It's also not as different as we make it out to be in other leagues. Most leagues have gk horror shows every week, and that is with far better defenses. It's just those defenses don't give them the same number of opportunities as the typical MLS backline.

My take anyway.
The highlights were just a sample of what I consistently have seen in most MLS games I have watched around the league the last two years (I will admit that I haven't watched MLS religiously until our inception). Goalies woefully out of position, flopping around the box, relying on the punch, mishandling balls, dreadful giveaways, etc. Many MLS goalies just seem to lack the fundamentals you would expect, at least to my eye. Saunders falls deeply into that category, I just think he's pretty close to the norm.

Though I do think that it's much more problematic in our case because we play a system where we expect to give up chances and transition (and with a suspect back line). And we play a game where our goalie starts the attack. That's a bad recipe, that screams for a better goalie.
 
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Inbox: MLS fine NYCFC's Diego Martinez for verbal abuse of a ball kid @ RFK on Sun; but unable to confirm that he uttered a homophobic slur.
I got money on Martinez telling the kid something like hurry up pu*o.. And MLS would of actually fined him yet will do nothing about it being chanted on national broadcasts. Smh
 
I would just like to say that my emails to Chris Schlosser, Senior Vice President of MLS Digital, and Greg Lalas, VP of Content for MLSsoccer.com, have not responded regarding the conduct of one Red Bull fan Kevin Brown on Week 33's broadcast.

He's back for Week 34. God help him.
 
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