Kreis Officially Out At NYCFC

...and obviously CFG thought they were getting one of the top managers in all of MLS or they wouldn't have handed him $1 Million and the keys to the Camaro so to speak.
 
...and obviously CFG thought they were getting one of the top managers in all of MLS or they wouldn't have handed him $1 Million and the keys to the Camaro so to speak.
Let see: (1) NYCFC 1st season in MLS, (2) Pick up a couple of injured MLS players to begin a roster along with ONE DP, (3) Uitlized MLS draft process to pick 10 players (expected to fit into his 4-4-2 diamond approach) not protected by their MLS clubs (note: clubs protect 10 players, notably their most valued starters and potential "younger" players whom they deem have a very bright future), (4) NYCFC then brings in mid-season, multiple foreign players including TWO DPs who don't really fit into the 4-4-2 diamond offense/defense which forces Kreis to change the field dynamics to 4-2-3-1. (5) Then at mid-season, we add up to FIVE new faces on the playing field and Kreis is expected to get "winning results" week-after-week??? Soccer's not a static sport, it's necessitates "team flow" and that demands players learning each others skill attributes, athletic abilities, etc.

ONE SEASON…and upper management blames Kreis for not making the playoffs? How many coaches in any sport could have created a "winner" under these circumstances in their 1st year of existence?
 
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Let see: (1) NYCFC 1st season in MLS, (2) Pick up a couple of injured MLS players to begin a roster along with ONE DP, (3) Uitlized MLS draft process to pick 10 players (expected to fit into his 4-4-2 diamond approach) not protected by their MLS clubs (note: clubs protect 10 players, notably their most valued starters and potential "younger" players whom they deem have a very bright future), (4) NYCFC then brings in mid-season, multiple foreign players including TWO DPs who don't really fit into the 4-4-2 diamond offense/defense which forces Kreis to change the field dynamics to 4-2-3-1. (5) Then at mid-season, we add up to FIVE new faces on the playing field and Kreis is expected to get "winning results" week-after-week??? Soccer's not a static sport, it's necessitates "team flow" and that demands players learning each others skill attributes, athletic abilities, etc.

ONE SEASON…and upper management blames Kreis for not making the playoffs? How many coaches in any sport could have created a "winner" under these circumstances in their 1st year of existence?
Upper Management blames Kreis for much more than not making the playoffs - they said he didn't create an environment/foundation for success going forward.
 
Let see: (1) NYCFC 1st season in MLS, (2) Pick up a couple of injured MLS players to begin a roster along with ONE DP, (3) Uitlized MLS draft process to pick 10 players (expected to fit into his 4-4-2 diamond approach) not protected by their MLS clubs (note: clubs protect 10 players, notably their most valued starters and potential "younger" players whom they deem have a very bright future), (4) NYCFC then brings in mid-season, multiple foreign players including TWO DPs who don't really fit into the 4-4-2 diamond offense/defense which forces Kreis to change the field dynamics to 4-2-3-1. (5) Then at mid-season, we add up to FIVE new faces on the playing field and Kreis is expected to get "winning results" week-after-week??? Soccer's not a static sport, it's necessitates "team flow" and that demands players learning each others skill attributes, athletic abilities, etc.

ONE SEASON…and upper management blames Kreis for not making the playoffs? How many coaches in any sport could have created a "winner" under these circumstances in their 1st year of existence?


No one told him he had to play a 4-4-2 diamond.
No one told him to pick up injured MLS players
No one told him he had to take the job
Again, no one told him the DPs had to play in the 4-4-2 diamond

And he wasn't fired just for missing the players. We all saw that there was no plan moving forward. He said Chris Wingert, 32 years old, was a foundational building block for this franchise. That's just silly.
 
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Let see: (1) NYCFC 1st season in MLS, (2) Pick up a couple of injured MLS players to begin a roster along with ONE DP, (3) Uitlized MLS draft process to pick 10 players (expected to fit into his 4-4-2 diamond approach) not protected by their MLS clubs (note: clubs protect 10 players, notably their most valued starters and potential "younger" players whom they deem have a very bright future), (4) NYCFC then brings in mid-season, multiple foreign players including TWO DPs who don't really fit into the 4-4-2 diamond offense/defense which forces Kreis to change the field dynamics to 4-2-3-1. (5) Then at mid-season, we add up to FIVE new faces on the playing field and Kreis is expected to get "winning results" week-after-week??? Soccer's not a static sport, it's necessitates "team flow" and that demands players learning each others skill attributes, athletic abilities, etc.

ONE SEASON…and upper management blames Kreis for not making the playoffs? How many coaches in any sport could have created a "winner" under these circumstances in their 1st year of existence?
Dear god. Haven't we done this exchange 1000 times already on this thread?
 
The amount of vehement protestation on this forum suggested some posters (obvious trolls or not) held him in such high regard. Otherwise those protests would have not made sense. One only strongly objects to his firing if s/he considers him a top notch manager, a 90 percentile or above manager.
Kjbert was a little hyperbolic. Top manager is not the same as god amongst men.
 
Kjbert was a little hyperbolic. Top manager is not the same as god amongst men.
Very true. But MLS pundits couldn't gush enough about how talented JK was when it was first announced he was hired as coach & throughout the year before the first kickoff. I don't think they ever used the term God Amongst Men, but reading between the lines they were saying he was the best thing since sliced bread because of his vast knowledge of MLS and how the league functioned.

And I would pay money to watch you strangle a turkey to death, provided the Turkey was willing to throw down and not simply sit there and take it. That'd be quite entertaining today!
 
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He's already rumored in pretty much every open job and some that arent. I would be surprised if he doesn't have an mls head coaching job by the end of 2016 as long as no one on this forum secretly is also an mls team president.
My guess is Atlanta. Though maybe LAFC if he prefers life out West but I can't imagine he would want to step away for two years.

He has a family and he doesn't like moving them constantly. He said that was a hard thing for him leaving RSL to come to NY so I'm sure he'll be more selective in picking his next job.
 
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I would strangle a turkey to death than get into this argument against but Nikita never said JK was the best coach ever. You can argue against his firing and not elevate him to deity-like status.
Yes, deity-like status is reserved only for the all-knowing, all-seeing, benevolent, infallible CFG.

Praise thy name.
 
My guess is Atlanta. Though maybe LAFC if he prefers life out West but I can't imagine he would want to step away for two years.

He has a family and he doesn't like moving them constantly. He said that was a hard thing for him leaving RSL to come to NY so I'm sure he'll be more selective in picking his next job.
I would be semi surprised if he goes to another expansion team but lets be honest, not every MLS ownership group is CFG. And Kreis will want to be back in the league.
 
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MLS/comments/3ucjbp/will_jason_kreis_have_an_mls_manager_job_by_the/

Posted a thread on r/mls if you guys are interested in what the MLS community thinks.
Meh, just read that thread and after losing 90secs of my life that I'll never see again, it's painfully clear again that reddit is a bunch of clowns with not an original thought in their heads. The big comments were that the consensus still couldn't believe he was let go and if he wants a job he'll get one..... obviously the joker must've posted before Chicago thanked him for dropping by.

There you go, nobody else needs to waste their time there.....

edit: And not sorry DV posted it, as any insight can be good, just frustrated reddit is such a black hole for intellect.....
 
Meh, just read that thread and after losing 90secs of my life that I'll never see again, it's painfully clear again that reddit is a bunch of clowns with not an original thought in their heads. The big comments were that the consensus still couldn't believe he was let go and if he wants a job he'll get one..... obviously the joker must've posted before Chicago thanked him for dropping by.

There you go, nobody else needs to waste their time there.....

edit: And not sorry DV posted it, as any insight can be good, just frustrated reddit is such a black hole for intellect.....
Haha. We must have a special collection of geniuses that know how to argue with intellect, logic, and reason instead of personal attacks.
 
Come on, we are the crème de la crème of the US soccer fans here on this forum. Dare anyone challenge that
It's not so much that I'd argue any one of us are geniuses, but the majority of those that partake in this forum seem to have rational thoughts that are backed with examples, facts, and/or citations. Right or wrong - whichever side of the discussion somebody is on - just back it up (as most do) and a level of respect & discourse is earned. This isn't to say that everything on this site furthers the greater intellect and knowledge base of our collective view of the club, because there's a ton of wit and quips that help past time - I know I'm very much guilty of planting those and only hope they help the banter....

Whereas Reddit is the wild, wild west of postings.... say whatever the hell you want without grounding it and damn those that don't agree with you by calling them names and slamming their intellect. Maturity that hasn't even hit the level 'tweeners possess. Trolling though has become a rampant art form.
 
It's not so much that I'd argue any one of us are geniuses, but the majority of those that partake in this forum seem to have rational thoughts that are backed with examples, facts, and/or citations. Right or wrong - whichever side of the discussion somebody is on - just back it up (as most do) and a level of respect & discourse is earned. This isn't to say that everything on this site furthers the greater intellect and knowledge base of our collective view of the club, because there's a ton of wit and quips that help past time - I know I'm very much guilty of planting those and only hope they help the banter....

Whereas Reddit is the wild, wild west of postings.... say whatever the hell you want without grounding it and damn those that don't agree with you by calling them names and slamming their intellect. Maturity that hasn't even hit the level 'tweeners possess. Trolling though has become a rampant art form.
I can tell you don't really read the MLS subreddit. Sub quality varys. Only trolls really are NASL and cosmos fans. But fuck those guys they don't know shit ;).
 
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