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La Liga to stage competitive fixtures in USA & Canada

Discussion in 'Other Football' started by ferrarinycfc, Aug 16, 2018.

  1. ferrarinycfc

    ferrarinycfc Regular Member

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    Fantazma Senior Member Seasoned Supporter

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    lol wow. i mean only real madrid barcelona or atletico would make this worthwhile for promoters. but same time you think they really want to come over for a game, what if its close race and decisive match is to be played in US rather than at home.

    im surprised it was la liga to be honest, premier league was the one toying with idea and seemed to make more sense due to them having more exposure on TV
     
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    FredMertz Senior Member Elite Donor Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    Trying to imagine how our good friend Charlie Stillitano would price a US classico.

    $500 minimum to get in the door.
     
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    It's like the NFL playing in England. It helps the league and the sport, but nobody really wants to do it. In recent years the Rams (when still in St. Louis) and Jaguars agreed to play multiple games there each year because heir home attendance and profitability was low anyway. But the coaches and players still hated it. But the business planners and money guys can't pass it up.
     
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    Fantazma Senior Member Seasoned Supporter

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    and people would pay it and more since its an official game
     
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    SoupInNYC Senior Member Elite Donor

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    The only difference here is, the NFL wants a team in London (pretty sure it will be the Jaguars, considering the games played over there, the ownership, Jacksonville market/fanbase, etc.). The European leagues can't put a team in the USA. Sure, there's still a ton of room for growth here in terms of tv viewership, marketing, etc.
     
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    I don't see how the NFL overcomes the added logistical problems of a full time team in Europe. It's almost easier to put 4 teams and a whole division there. But I agree it is possible for the NFL in a way that it is not for the European soccer leagues.
     
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    SoupInNYC Senior Member Elite Donor

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    Agreed, I think they'll find a way to force it though within the next 10 years. Everything about Khan makes it seem like he wants to be there IMO.
     
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    Fantazma Senior Member Seasoned Supporter

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    does he still own Fulham?
     
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    SoupInNYC Senior Member Elite Donor

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    Yup
     
  11. Shawn Ryu

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    Toronto is fielding a rugby league team that plays in English rugby leagues. They seem to be doing OK.
     
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    Yeah we discussed that here earlier, but I haven't followed the story. Amazing that they're doing this in rugby, and not even at the top level (as yet).
     
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    Shawn Ryu Junior Member

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    I guess NFL does have to worry about TV scheduling and their athletes fly charter.

    TV scheduling issue lies in the fact that London team will have to travel to west coast at one point or another.
     
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    It's not a surprise to me at all that it's La Liga who are doing it.

    La Liga and Serie A have long viewed each other as being of a similar stature to the PL and have slightly resented that the PL was able in recent years to grow its revenue so much higher than theirs. Leaving aside the questions of why it happened, the two other leagues essentially believe that they need to bring themselves back onto the same level as the PL and they think that the way to do it is to try to build up their reputations in "key growth" non-European markets such that your average American, Chinese or Australian etc is as likely to support Athletic Madrid as Tottenham Hotspur, and as likely to support Getafe as Fulham etc.

    While the PL may have dropped plans to play competitive games in the US over fan backlash - something they can afford to do as already the runaway leaders in global outreach - La Liga in particular always saw this as opening a door up and then failing to step through it. It was always inevitable that La Liga would take this step if the PL ever refused to try it themselves. Serie A has been contesting the Supercoppa in foreign countries for several years now but they seemed reluctant to take it further at this time. La Liga seems to be more willing to pull the trigger.

    Will it potentially disrupt the competitive balance of the league? Highly likely. Will Spanish fans accept the decision? I don't know but I wouldn't be surprised if they were outraged. Is La Liga willing to ignore these factors if it lands them a crucial blow against the PL in the war for fan numbers and retention in the US? Almost certainly, and if it seems like it's working then you can expect them to expand it to a full round or even two or three every season in order to make as large gains without English response as possible.
     
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    cant they just get better TV deals ? it seems both leagues went for the easy money with BeInsports and now are paying for it since that channel's availability is limited in US so their league did not have the "growth" it wanted. i feel there is too much negativity for fans ( and players really with all the travel) than good in this.

    Its all a marketing here. I mean depending when it happens and more importantly what team is involved. it can cause detriment. I mean imagine an injury occurs during this game to big player....man thats the end of that
     
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    The current line of thought is that actual, live, in-person appearances by a team do more to generate genuine fan commitment than just plastering marketing stuff, and the fan desire for access to games then generates the TV deals. Hence why La Liga is so interested in playing competitive matches there.
     
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    i dont know, again i think only RM, Barca, Atletico would draw, but you already have heavy following of those teams. i dont think people here in usa will randomly heavily follow a Eibar, villereal. or push teams like valancia, sevilla to RM/ barca levels.

    well see what the details are when it comes out
     
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    If they want to be the Prem, they need to first distribute the TV money more like the Prem, allowing La Liga to develop more than 2.5 competitive teams.
    Or any TV deal in the states at all. They were on BeIN, which is Qatari and has disappeared from many US cable providers. Hard to believe they can't strike some kind of deal with a US TV provider, especially given that an enormous number of Spanish-speaking Americans follow Barça and the Madrid teams.
     
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    Not for anything.... Im very excited
     
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    Serie A just signed a nice deal with ESPN at 55m per year and it's a much better platform than BeIN. That's a big plus for them. During the negotiations it was said that Serie A & La Liga both wanted to broaden their global brand especially in America. They've both been reluctant to do so, but that has changed. Even at the club level. Juventus recently opened a youth training center in Northern Jersey and have a few academy's in the U.S. now. They have the Netflix show. MLS ASG. Ronaldo. The league never cared about the US market until recently. Now they do. Premier League and Bundesliga have already been doing the work. La Liga needed to make a move and I guess this was it.
     

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