MLS Fantasy Officially A Clown Show Now

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"NOTE: Based on your feedback we have not reset Head-2-head leagues. Your overall score on Opening Weekend Challenge was still reset."

I don't care how many people complained, you don't change the rules after the fucking season starts and after the first week was played.
 
As it happens, this does not affect the Forum Elite H2H pay to play league, because we deleted and re-formed the league after the first week to let more players in. Any other H2H leagues you are in are now counting both your week one score and matchup. This does include the Forum Supporter no-ante H2H league. Because changing the rules on the fly is the MLS way.

All pure point leagues are unaffected, including the standard Forum league.
 
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As it happens, this does not affect the Forum Elite H2H pay to play league, because we deleted and re-formed the league after the first week to let more players in. Any other H2H leagues you are in are now counting both your week one score and matchup. This does include the Forum Supporter no-ante H2H league. Because changing the rules on the fly is the MLS way.

All pure point leagues are unaffected, including the standard Forum league.

Don't we look like fucking geniuses! I'm hoping I get commish of the year this season.
 
DO THEY NOT UNDERSTAND GAME DESIGN?

Basic contract between the developer and the game, I will create a world for you to express yourself and I will consistently apply the rules of that world. I will not change the rules on the fly.

How valuable is Pirlo in that ruleset? He should be an easy 5-10 points per week.
 
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DO THEY NOT UNDERSTAND GAME DESIGN?

Basic contract between the developer and the game, I will create a world for you to express yourself and I will consistently apply the rules of that world. I will not change the rules on the fly.

I'm pretty sure MLS hired the same people who develop and run the Fantasy Premier League. FPL is definitely more interesting (especially now that FMLS has unlimited free transfers aka "I never have to plan for anything"), *except* that FMLS manages to make CDMs worth fielding (somewhat).
 
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I'm pretty sure MLS hired the same people who develop and run the Fantasy Premier League. FPL is definitely more interesting (especially now that FMLS has unlimited free transfers aka "I never have to plan for anything"), *except* that FMLS manages to make CDMs worth fielding (somewhat).
I find the 1 free transfer rule in FPL very restrictive. Two seemed a good balance.
 
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I'm also pissed at automatic substitution. I won by 4 points this week in the Forums H2H until automatic subs kicked in and a bench player's 8 points were substituted for a starters' 2. Bullshit. Set your own damn lineup and stick with it.
 
I'm also pissed at automatic substitution. I won by 4 points this week in the Forums H2H until automatic subs kicked in and a bench player's 8 points were substituted for a starters' 2. Bullshit. Set your own damn lineup and stick with it.
Just wait until you set your lineup, then a key player doesn't play due to a completely undisclosed knock, or coach's whim, or whatever. Auto sub can save you and will help as often as it hurts.
 
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Just wait until you set your lineup, then a key player doesn't play due to a completely undisclosed knock, or coach's whim, or whatever. Auto sub can save you and will help as often as it hurts.
Speaking of, was it known in advance that the Galaxy's goalie wasn't starting?
 
I'm also pissed at automatic substitution. I won by 4 points this week in the Forums H2H until automatic subs kicked in and a bench player's 8 points were substituted for a starters' 2. Bullshit. Set your own damn lineup and stick with it.
It doesn't work like that. The auto subs only come into your lineup if your starter plays 0 minutes. I knew Alphonso Davies might not play because of the Champions League game on Tuesday, so I made Callens my first player off the bench just in case -- auto sub. dos Santos gets hurt at the beginning of the game and scores 1 point -- no auto sub.
 
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I'm pretty sure MLS hired the same people who develop and run the Fantasy Premier League. FPL is definitely more interesting (especially now that FMLS has unlimited free transfers aka "I never have to plan for anything"), *except* that FMLS manages to make CDMs worth fielding (somewhat).
When you say you're, "pretty sure," what are you basing that on?

Was that a "real life pretty sure" (I have solid factual reasons to believe this is true) or a "forum pretty sure" (this thought just occurred to me so I will assume it is almost certain)?

Is it because MLS borrowed liberally from the look and feel? Other than that, they basically couldn't be more different in almost every way that two things that are essentially similar can be.
 
When you say you're, "pretty sure," what are you basing that on?

Was that a "real life pretty sure" (I have solid factual reasons to believe this is true) or a "forum pretty sure" (this thought just occurred to me so I will assume it is almost certain)?

Is it because MLS borrowed liberally from the look and feel? Other than that, they basically couldn't be more different in almost every way that two things that are essentially similar can be.
Sigh.

Well. I guess I have to categorize it as "forum pretty sure" and more specifically "I think somebody said it once on r/FantasyPL." And my Google research hasn't yet turned up any answers to the questions "who develops the official Fantasy Premier League game?" and "who develops the official Fantasy MLS game?".

I'm a bad internetter and I should feel bad.
 
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Pivoting this into a general "FMLS Sux" thread, it seems like the new format is going to lead to a lot of lineups that are very similar. Looking at the top transfers in at forward this week, it looks like most teams will have Villa, Martinez, and Badji. Most teams will have Melia in goal. Etc.

It seems like a bad thing, but maybe it's just an adjustment. Either way, it's a massive change. Last few years was all about roster planning over 2-3+ week spans. This year might be more about differential picking at 2-3 spots each week.
 
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Pivoting this into a general "FMLS Sux" thread, it seems like the new format is going to lead to a lot of lineups that are very similar. Looking at the top transfers in at forward this week, it looks like most teams will have Villa, Martinez, and Badji. Most teams will have Melia in goal. Etc.

It seems like a bad thing, but maybe it's just an adjustment. Either way, it's a massive change. Last few years was all about roster planning over 2-3+ week spans. This year might be more about differential picking at 2-3 spots each week.
People are banking on 3 consecutive shutouts from Melia and SKC? That seems a poor bet, even at home.

But to your point, I'm not sure it's that bad. My read of the data is that Villa is the most highly selected player and he is below 40%. Martinez is only at 12.5% selected, even with his heavy transfers in this week. PS: the most amusing thing is 25% still own Giovinco even though he's definitely out.

My guess, and it's informed but only a guess, is this format will create greater variance in rosters. I think that restricting people's options leads to conformity and consensus on how to manage best within limitations, while more options leads to wider discrepancies as to what is the best course. I still prefer the old way, but hope I'm right about this.
 
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Just noticed Sjoberg is out for Colorado for 6-8 weeks after hamstring surgery. Wonder what that means for their defense in general. Last season Sjoberg played (and started) 31 out of 34 games
 
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I'm pretty sure MLS hired the same people who develop and run the Fantasy Premier League. FPL is definitely more interesting (especially now that FMLS has unlimited free transfers aka "I never have to plan for anything"), *except* that FMLS manages to make CDMs worth fielding (somewhat).

Yes! CDM actually being useful when priced 5.5-6.5 is nice. A 5.5 CDM in FPL is always going to be 2 points a game (+1 for clean sheet, - 1 for yellow) , not worth wasting space on. But in FMLS a CDM is worth ~4 and a good passing CDM that creates chances is a solid 6 pts a game. (although I will say its kind of lame that they get passing bonus for completting passes in a soft(er) spot on the field to the defense), definitely worth downgrading other areas to fit an MLS CDM in to your roster, especially if your downgrade has a better matchup then the primary player.

I'm also pissed at automatic substitution. I won by 4 points this week in the Forums H2H until automatic subs kicked in and a bench player's 8 points were substituted for a starters' 2. Bullshit. Set your own damn lineup and stick with it.
Yeah that happened to me too. To this guy:

It doesn't work like that. The auto subs only come into your lineup if your starter plays 0 minutes. I knew Alphonso Davies might not play because of the Champions League game on Tuesday, so I made Callens my first player off the bench just in case -- auto sub. dos Santos gets hurt at the beginning of the game and scores 1 point -- no auto sub.

Very disheartening, but I didn't have an overwhelming week. Above average in the general populous, but just average for an avid fantasy player. If only seba didn't get injured and could take his PK! argh.

Just wait until you set your lineup, then a key player doesn't play due to a completely undisclosed knock, or coach's whim, or whatever. Auto sub can save you and will help as often as it hurts.

That happens and its shit luck. It happens in game too where a guy subs off early (see seba above). If your playing fantasy and you want to win then you gotta go TINA (There Is No Alternative). Put all your points into your starting lineup, your bench should be minimums w/ best chance at playing some. If you keep hedging your luck by siphoning buget to bench players you are going to end up with a respectable season, but not a champion season. People who win, go balls out and get lucky. That's just how it goes. Guys who blow up could have been hero's if things broke slightly their way. People who hedge end up respectable but losers. Although there might be something to fielding 15 average priced players in the early weeks. If they all play well, you get a significant budget improvement for the rest of the year and don't need to worry about taking hits since subs are unlimited. (This idea needs more thinking on though, I didn't employ that strategy).

Speaking of, was it known in advance that the Galaxy's goalie wasn't starting?
I did not know of any news, but I remember seeing him play us last year and he was good, and rowe is so iffy that I said, meh, let me put him in at 4.0 since I put minimums on the bench. Normally I would go starters and his 4.0 backup, but I kept him on to see if rowe gets yanked out of his role. He seemed the best 4.0 to potentially start.
 
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People are banking on 3 consecutive shutouts from Melia and SKC? That seems a poor bet, even at home.

Gambler's fallacy alert!

But to your point, I'm not sure it's that bad. My read of the data is that Villa is the most highly selected player and he is below 40%. Martinez is only at 12.5% selected, even with his heavy transfers in this week. PS: the most amusing thing is 25% still own Giovinco even though he's definitely out.

My guess, and it's informed but only a guess, is this format will create greater variance in rosters. I think that restricting people's options leads to conformity and consensus on how to manage best within limitations, while more options leads to wider discrepancies as to what is the best course. I still prefer the old way, but hope I'm right about this.

Interesting take. I wonder if the best solution would have been somewhere in between, e.g. four or five free transfers per week.

Or maybe just a fixed transfer fee of -2 per transfer, instead of -4 like last year?

To keep spitballing, why not relax the substitution rules a little bit to make your bench more valuable - have your three best bench performers sub in for your three worst field players, assuming they fit into the roster requirements. The bench becomes like a FLEX spot in fantasy football, but you only get the net gain from the sub.
 
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Gambler's fallacy alert!



Interesting take. I wonder if the best solution would have been somewhere in between, e.g. four or five free transfers per week.

Or maybe just a fixed transfer fee of -2 per transfer, instead of -4 like last year?

To keep spitballing, why not relax the substitution rules a little bit to make your bench more valuable - have your three best bench performers sub in for your three worst field players, assuming they fit into the roster requirements. The bench becomes like a FLEX spot in fantasy football, but you only get the net gain from the sub.

This whole thing was done to mimic DFS and its poularity. But if that's the case, they should be heavily advertising weekly contests with prizes. And offer head to head weekly matchups as well. None of this feels thought out. As perfectly illustrated by announcing H2H won't count week 1 and then backtracking on that.
 
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