NASL has lost D2 sanction.

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https://www.fourfourtwo.com/us/feat...-san-francisco-deltas-division-ii-sacntioning

The SF Deltas will likely go out of business unless they can double their average attendance for the remainder of the season. In conjunction with the loss of the Edmonton team to the Canadian Premier League this will put the NASL well under the 12 teams it needs to maintain its D2 sanction as per the USSF's mandate at the end of last season when the USSF provisionally re-sanctioned the NASL as a D2 league.

And all the down votes I received over at r/mls are now vindicated.

Who would have thought that independent ownership and unlimited spending could ever introduce more instability into the system than a nascent sport could handle?
 
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/us/feat...-san-francisco-deltas-division-ii-sacntioning

The SF Deltas will likely go out of business unless they can double their average attendance for the remainder of the season. In conjunction with the loss of the Edmonton team to the Canadian Premier League this will put the NASL well under the 12 teams it needs to maintain its D2 sanction as per the USSF's mandate at the end of last season when the USSF provisionally re-sanctioned the NASL as a D2 league.

And all the down votes I received over at r/mls are now vindicated.

Who would have thought that independent ownership and unlimited spending could ever introduce more instability into the system than a nascent sport could handle?
Didn't 'like' for the demise of the NASL but wow, just wow, is that league pathetically operated with no foresight.
 
Didn't 'like' for the demise of the NASL but wow, just wow, is that league pathetically operated with no foresight.

I would love the demise of the NASL. Most of their owners (or mainly just the Cosmos and Miami FC ones) are trying to propel the league to D1 status to compete with MLS. MLS didn't get to where it is by going guns blazing.

The USL has a strategic plan for growth and sustainability to maintain the US Soccer pyramid. It will be USL and USL2 which will actually be the 3rd tier.
 
I'd be ok with the demise of the NASL if their teams got absorbed into the USL. If they somehow survive, they don't deserve to be anything more than D3id also be ok if the Kosmos went under for a year or two, sold the TM rights to an owner with a realistic white paper on running the club, and came back as a USL club; but stay gone for long enough to drive the point home with their obnoxious fans that the Kosmos of today is a parody of the original, pro/reg is dead, and their club is a cancer to any league called the NASL.
 
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If anyone passed by it, here's the direct link to the article by the SFD pres. It's actually a pretty interesting read, but in the end, comes off extremely desperate.

It's over for the Deltas. I consider myself a San Franciscan after spending over a decade of my best years living there. I hate to say it, but anyone from SF saw the unavoidable failure of this team from a mile away. With the exception of a few, SF is not going to support a "minor" league team. Every team that has tried in the past has failed. I've watched it first hand as a STH for one of those teams.

SF is just WAY too expensive for minor league sports. Because of high operating costs, they have to charge way more for their product. Why the hell would I spend $20 to see the Deltas at Kezar when I could spent $10 to see the Giants at arguably the best baseball stadium in the country? That $20 is for a wooden bleacher seat, too. It's $35 to sit in a seat with a back on it. Insane.

The branding is a complete disaster. If you have to constantly explain what the hell you were going for, you have completely missed the mark.

They have spent resources in the stupidest of ways. They allocate bandwidth to having an English AND Spanish AND Portuguese broadcast. Why??? The waste that is their "flex seating". Like anyone is going to care enough to sit with other fans that like Messi. Get your basics down and grow from there.

They've clearly struggled immensely in obtaining sponsorship. Look at their ad boards around the field. They are mostly promoting the team's social media accounts with a couple of small, local sponsors having signs. No jersey sponsor at all.

I'm sure that they were limited in some capacity, but scheduling is terrible. Every game is a night game. People in SF don't want to sit out in the thick fog and wind that consumes the area that Kezar is in for night games. Day games were a must.

A lot of NASL people really thought that SF would be a savior during a very uncertain time. Unfortunately that have been quite the opposite and will ultimately hurt an already damaged NASL reputation. Will it fold the league like the article in the OP suggests? Eh. Pretty sensationalized.

It's just been a series of unexplainable decisions. Could this team work in SF if they had taken some different steps? Maybe. But the odds were heavily stacked against them from the get go and they didn't do themselves any favors. The saddest part is that they were able to put together a VERY competitive team on the field. Second in the spring season. Too bad the rest of the club has been a complete failure.
 
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If anyone passed by it, here's the direct link to the article by the SFD pres. It's actually a pretty interesting read, but in the end, comes off extremely desperate.

It's over for the Deltas. I consider myself a San Franciscan after spending over a decade of my best years living there. I hate to say it, but anyone from SF saw the unavoidable failure of this team from a mile away. With the exception of a few, SF is not going to support a "minor" league team. Every team that has tried in the past has failed. I've watched it first hand as a STH for one of those teams.

SF is just WAY too expensive for minor league sports. Because of high operating costs, they have to charge way more for their product. Why the hell would I spend $20 to see the Deltas at Kezar when I could spent $10 to see the Giants at arguably the best baseball stadium in the country? That $20 is for a wooden bleacher seat, too. It's $35 to sit in a seat with a back on it. Insane.

The branding is a complete disaster. If you have to constantly explain what the hell you were going for, you have completely missed the mark.

They have spent resources in the stupidest of ways. They allocate bandwidth to having an English AND Spanish AND Portuguese broadcast. Why??? The waste that is their "flex seating". Like anyone is going to care enough to sit with other fans that like Messi. Get your basics down and grow from there.

They've clearly struggled immensely in obtaining sponsorship. Look at their ad boards around the field. They are mostly promoting the team's social media accounts with a couple of small, local sponsors having signs. No jersey sponsor at all.

I'm sure that they were limited in some capacity, but scheduling is terrible. Every game is a night game. People in SF don't want to sit out in the thick fog and wind that consumes the area that Kezar is in for night games. Day games were a must.

A lot of NASL people really thought that SF would be a savior during a very uncertain time. Unfortunately that have been quite the opposite and will ultimately hurt an already damaged NASL reputation. Will it fold the league like the article in the OP suggests? Eh. Pretty sensationalized.

It's just been a series of unexplainable decisions. Could this team work in SF if they had taken some different steps? Maybe. But the odds were heavily stacked against them from the get go and they didn't do themselves any favors. The saddest part is that they were able to put together a VERY competitive team on the field. Second in the spring season. Too bad the rest of the club has been a complete failure.
I'm a New Yorker but I love San Francisco and have been there 6 or 8 times. But I was just sitting here wondering how someone who's from there would feel about the San Jose Quakes. Is that a local team you would root for because they're MLS and in your neighborhood or would they seem like they might as well be in Las Vegas for all you care and you'd rather root for the local but lower level team? Could maybe go either way, and which way that goes could certainly affect the fate of the Deltas.
 
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I'm a New Yorker but I love San Francisco and have been there 6 or 8 times. But I was just sitting here wondering how someone who's from there would feel about the San Jose Quakes. Is that a local team you would root for because they're MLS and in your neighborhood or would they seem like they might as well be in Las Vegas for all you care and you'd rather root for the local but lower level team? Could maybe go either way, and which way that goes could certainly affect the fate of the Deltas.
Quakes have very little presence in SF. Honestly, SF isn't that huge of a soccer city, despite what most think. Warriors and Giants are the kings there.
 
Love the last part "If NASL were forced to drop down as well, a club like the New York Cosmos would be ostensibly playing on the same level as Chattanooga FC, currently of the NPSL."
 
It's gone. Seems like folks anticipate this having been done early to give a merger of some sort a chance

http://fiftyfive.one/2017/09/us-soccer-federation-rejects-nasls-division-ii-application/

Not surprising. They wanted to kill off the NASL last winter but didn't want to kill off the clubs. By deciding early this year, clubs in the NASL can prepare their exits as they won't be held to the NASL by exit fees (which are decimated by the fall from D2 to D3).

I assume this will be the death of the NASL - why run two too-small D3 leagues that are ideologically aligned? I assume some of the successful but more ideologically ambiguous teams will move to the USL for stability (Indy, North Carolina, Jacksonville), and some others might end up in the NISA or just fold.
 
Not surprising. They wanted to kill off the NASL last winter but didn't want to kill off the clubs. By deciding early this year, clubs in the NASL can prepare their exits as they won't be held to the NASL by exit fees (which are decimated by the fall from D2 to D3).

I assume this will be the death of the NASL - why run two too-small D3 leagues that are ideologically aligned? I assume some of the successful but more ideologically ambiguous teams will move to the USL for stability (Indy, North Carolina, Jacksonville), and some others might end up in the NISA or just fold.
When does the Kosmos submit their application to the English Premier League :)
 
I received something on the order of 30 downvotes for suggesting that the USSF would do exactly this like 2 months ago. Vindication always feels sweet.

I'm slightly surprised by today's news, but purely because there were basically no rumors or indication leading up to it. It always made logical sense to me as well. Much more logical than the NASL pulling two more expansion teams out of their butt this fall to secure D2 status.
 
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Not surprising. They wanted to kill off the NASL last winter but didn't want to kill off the clubs. By deciding early this year, clubs in the NASL can prepare their exits as they won't be held to the NASL by exit fees (which are decimated by the fall from D2 to D3).

I assume this will be the death of the NASL - why run two too-small D3 leagues that are ideologically aligned? I assume some of the successful but more ideologically ambiguous teams will move to the USL for stability (Indy, North Carolina, Jacksonville), and some others might end up in the NISA or just fold.

this is my thought as well...there will be now be two North Carolina teams? lol i think NISA is the go to for those not wanting to be part of USL. i remember we were discussing NASL San Diego....whats gonna happen there? so many questions now...sucks im busy at work cant go in deeper to see what the feel is about this news.

Wait, so the NISA gets to keep D3 status? So the feeder league they only just created is now considered to be of equal rank to the parent organisation?
Delicious...

technically there is no D3 now they will be filling that D3 void next year allegedly if it gets approved. USLD3 is coming 2019, but man judging by this NISA may not even get approved unless they merge with NASL.

I'm slightly surprised by today's news, but purely because there were basically no rumors or indication leading up to it. It always made logical sense to me as well. Much more logical than the NASL pulling two more expansion teams out of their butt this fall to secure D2 status.

wasnt the US soccer assembly meeting this week ? or last week? that is basically where they decide things like this....i think the USASA stuff was being presented as well but not sure if its to US soccer since they dont deal with amateur leagues