New Jersey - Postmatch

The Post is using a pro-Red Bull photographer and the story is how the Red Bulls lost the game rather than how NYCFC won it. I guess The Post and their readership is based in NJ. :eek:

They're the only local media outlet that covers the team regularly, and you did not manage to read the tweet well enough to know the difference between the writer and photographer until I point it out to you, and then you change your complaint after your error is pointed out. One might suspect you first decided to criticize the Post and went looking for a reason. How about the Daily News and NY Times give the team no steady coverage and have zero MLS beat writers?

And as long as MLS is not big enough to force the Post to have multiple beat writers cover the same game between the 2 area teams and write multiple articles, like they would do for Jets/Giants or Yankee/Mets, then every such article is going to be more about one team than the other. It's a 50-50 shot, and sometimes comes up bad. The editor can't wait until the game is over and the result is known to assign a writer who knows the winning team and has good contacts with them. Maybe Schnitzer was sick, on vacation, or had a wedding to go to. I'm happy the Post actually has more than one MLS-capable writer on staff. The other papers have a combined zero.

And how in hell did you even find that tweet which originally set you off from the unrelated NY Post writer who happens to be a Red Bull fan when she doesn't cover sports, and had nothing to do with the article or photo? Do you actively search for stupid Red Bull fans saying obnoxious things only to get yourself worked up?
 
K. Def not the case at Anfield. And since they are practically neighbors in the northwest, I’d bet it’s the same.
Interesting. I wonder if the board has been to every current premier league venue. I'll start us off:

Stamford Bridge
Goodison Park
Selhurst Park
Wembley

Also Villa Park, but that doesn't count anymore.

LionNYC LionNYC feel free to move...
 
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Yeah, Doyle and MLS digital are killing us in favor of the Red Bulls.


Doyle on Extra Time Radio: "I don't love watching the Red Bulls because I don't love high pressing teams."
https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2018...-marsch-left-red-bulls-become-assistant-coach
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I can't even with the lack of attention and negativity.
It is a little annoying how they spun Marsch and Red Bull as an organization that promotes ambition. The tone around that was more positive than I remember hearing about CFG. So maybe RB has helped our press? They can't crack on us without hitting them 3x as hard.
 
Mark, I am usually the first guy to push back on accusations of bias, but I think the tweet below - which is hardly an outlier - is much stronger than the MLS staff doing routine retweets of our players after a game.


i do think he has bias for certain teams, but i think he masks it by doing a comment like that for mostly every team in the league to say he is not "biased" at least from what i have seen here and there on twitter. he does it too for shock value

i still think his analysis is trash
 
This whole NJ dominates us thing needs to stop. After wining the first 4 matches against us (when we were an expansion team!), we have now reached the point where a win at home next month leaves us 6-5-1 all time in the regular season. We are 0-2 vs them in the USOC, which is always played in NJ with a depleted roster and PV managing (maybe the worst cup manager ever?). In fact, we are 4-2-1 in our last 7 regular season matches against them, starting after the Redbull Wedding.

Also of note: 2017 USOC drew 11,300 at RB Arena & 2018 drew 9,500. There's no reason we can't find venue to hold 10k around NYC and make it a home match.

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This whole NJ dominates us thing needs to stop. After wining the first 4 matches against us (when we were an expansion team!), we have now reached the point where a win at home next month leaves us 6-5-1 all time in the regular season. We are 0-2 vs them in the USOC, which is always played in NJ with a depleted roster and PV managing (maybe the worst cup manager ever?). In fact, we are 4-2-1 in our last 7 regular season matches against them, starting after the Redbull Wedding.

Also of note: 2017 USOC drew 11,300 at RB Arena & 2018 drew 9,500. There's no reason we can't find venue to hold 10k around NYC and make it a home match.

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But I think there is something to be said for how dominant Red Bulls have been in their wins. Yes, winning 1-0 gives the same amount of points as winning 4-0, but it doesn’t feel the same. Red Bulls have embarrassed us more then once. They have a +13 goal differential against us, and that goes up to +18 if you include the Open Cup.

I still disagree with Doyle’s tweet about them “100 % owning us” though
 
They're the only local media outlet that covers the team regularly, and you did not manage to read the tweet well enough to know the difference between the writer and photographer until I point it out to you, and then you change your complaint after your error is pointed out. One might suspect you first decided to criticize the Post and went looking for a reason. How about the Daily News and NY Times give the team no steady coverage and have zero MLS beat writers?

And as long as MLS is not big enough to force the Post to have multiple beat writers cover the same game between the 2 area teams and write multiple articles, like they would do for Jets/Giants or Yankee/Mets, then every such article is going to be more about one team than the other. It's a 50-50 shot, and sometimes comes up bad. The editor can't wait until the game is over and the result is known to assign a writer who knows the winning team and has good contacts with them. Maybe Schnitzer was sick, on vacation, or had a wedding to go to. I'm happy the Post actually has more than one MLS-capable writer on staff. The other papers have a combined zero.

And how in hell did you even find that tweet which originally set you off from the unrelated NY Post writer who happens to be a Red Bull fan when she doesn't cover sports, and had nothing to do with the article or photo? Do you actively search for stupid Red Bull fans saying obnoxious things only to get yourself worked up?

It showed up on my Twitter feed. Those random tweets ones are typically generated by likes by people I follow. Schnitzer liked it because he works there. So blame the Twitter algorithm for me seeing biased reporting.
 
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Doyle loved watching NYCFC because it was aesthetically appealing but then he also loved watching NYCFC get killed with RBNJ’s press so he could troll and/or prove that he is right.
 
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But I think there is something to be said for how dominant Red Bulls have been in their wins. Yes, winning 1-0 gives the same amount of points as winning 4-0, but it doesn’t feel the same. Red Bulls have embarrassed us more then once. They have a +13 goal differential against us, and that goes up to +18 if you include the Open Cup.

I still disagree with Doyle’s tweet about them “100 % owning us” though

I think a lot of that had to do with PVs shitty strategy to play into their press and not adjust. Not them having a better team. NJ doesn’t dominate the league, because most competent managers will plan against the press.

Also, we’ve played 8 matches in NJ and 5 in YS. That’s lopsided too.

And I’ll mention again, they went 3-0 on us in our first year ever and under Jason Kries. Outscorring is 8-2. Not really fair to count that. They had been in the league 20 years at that point. Even year 2 is shakey to claim superiority, but we were a playoff team with a bye that season, so I’ll only ask year 1 has an asterisk. It’s like gloating you beat up a child. I actually hope we meet them in the playoffs under dome and win both legs (and win again at home next month). Series would be 8-7-1 and we can hold it over them we bounced them from the playoffs. Maybe then this all stops.
 

I'm not normally one to jump the gun on stuff like this, but his first few games and public appearances only confirm what we knew about him on paper: Dome is possibly the best coach in MLS, with Martino the only other in competition. Can't wait to play a two-leg playoff tie against Atlanta.