NYCFC in the Media Thread - 2019

Streaming sucks.

Can I stream the game on my iPad, send it to my Apple TV and watch it that way? Absolutely.

But guess what? That takes up bandwidth, it’s choppy, the feed is delayed and it’s extra work.

So no. I don’t want to stream it.
 
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Hot take incoming:

I honestly don't know anyone that doesn't have a device that can stream the game (Roku, Apple TV, Amazon Fire, A COMPUTER, YOUR PHONE, etc.), and this is a pretty big overreaction by everyone. It sucks that we won't simply grab the casual viewer flipping through channels, but by now the means of watching via Fox Sports GO is as easy as finding your remote or locating your phone. We're a technologically advanced society now, even older generations. If you really want to watch the game, you'll find a way.
 
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For me streaming is second rate in one respect, which is when I want to find a specific part of a game. It's fine for watching a game live beginning to end. But when I get back from a game and I want to review a few specific moments it is so much easier to find them on a DVR than on most streaming software (a few streaming platforms do this well, most don't). As much as I liked MLS Live, it was terrible on this issue. If you wanted to jump to minute 70 it took forever to get there. I also had a sub to FuboTV for a few months a while back and it was horrendous. I remember watching part of a game, then when I resumed it forced me to start from the beginning, and FF was effectively useless. That was a couple of years ago; maybe it improved. Also streams don't always stay available when the live feed is over and you want to review later. I don't remember how NYCFC games on FSG are handled after the game ends.

So I don't consider it a big deal but it is a real if minor annoyance, and the real issue is that it just gets added to the list of how an organization supposedly devoted to best practices routinely delivers second class. Most of the items on the list are not that bad individually. It's the combined effect that grates.

But at least we're not DCU, who went all in on streaming under a service you have to add to your subscription list and which nobody heard of and which probably offers little else I would want to watch.
 
Hot take incoming:

I honestly don't know anyone that doesn't have a device that can stream the game (Roku, Apple TV, Amazon Fire, A COMPUTER, YOUR PHONE, etc.), and this is a pretty big overreaction by everyone. It sucks that we won't simply grab the casual viewer flipping through channels, but by now the means of watching via Fox Sports GO is as easy as finding your remote or locating your phone. We're a technologically advanced society now, even older generations. If you really want to watch the game, you'll find a way.

The stream is never as good of an experience as the actual broadcast. It’s a cutesy way to watch things that otherwise wouldn’t be televised.

If streaming was the best option, broadcast television would be gone already
 
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For me streaming is second rate in one respect, which is when I want to find a specific part of a game. It's fine for watching a game live beginning to end. But when I get back from a game and I want to review a few specific moments it is so much easier to find them on a DVR than on most streaming software (a few streaming platforms do this well, most don't). As much as I liked MLS Live, it was terrible on this issue. If you wanted to jump to minute 70 it took forever to get there. I also had a sub to FuboTV for a few months a while back and it was horrendous. I remember watching part of a game, then when I resumed it forced me to start from the beginning, and FF was effectively useless. That was a couple of years ago; maybe it improved. Also streams don't always stay available when the live feed is over and you want to review later. I don't remember how NYCFC games on FSG are handled after the game ends.

So I don't consider it a big deal but it is a real if minor annoyance, and the real issue is that it just gets added to the list of how an organization supposedly devoted to best practices routinely delivers second class. Most of the items on the list are not that bad individually. It's the combined effect that grates.

But at least we're not DCU, who went all in on streaming under a service you have to add to your subscription list and which nobody heard of and which probably offers little else I would want to watch.


This. Certainly First World problems but don’t serve me chicken shit and tell me it’s a chicken bucket.
 
For me streaming is second rate in one respect, which is when I want to find a specific part of a game. It's fine for watching a game live beginning to end. But when I get back from a game and I want to review a few specific moments it is so much easier to find them on a DVR than on most streaming software (a few streaming platforms do this well, most don't). As much as I liked MLS Live, it was terrible on this issue. If you wanted to jump to minute 70 it took forever to get there. Also streams don't always stay available when the live feed is over and you want to review later. I don't remember how NYCFC games on FSG are handled after the game ends.

So I don't consider it a big deal but it is a real if minor annoyance, and the real issue is that it just gets added to the list of how an organization supposedly devoted to best practices routinely delivers second class. Most of the items on the list are not that and individually. It's the combined effect that grates.

But at least we're not DCU, who went all in on streaming under a service you have to add to your subscription list and which nobody heard of and which probably offers little else I would want to watch.

Completely understandable. But again, what is YES supposed to do here? The Yankees are the most-watched team in sports aside from the NFL. We are not. They have to show the Yankees over NYCFC. Hopefully games will be on their overflow thing, but aside from that there's not much they (or NYCFC) can do. Five of the six "offending" games are on weekdays. It's not like they can move game times.
 
Completely understandable. But again, what is YES supposed to do here? The Yankees are the most-watched team in sports aside from the NFL. We are not. They have to show the Yankees over NYCFC. Hopefully games will be on their overflow thing, but aside from that there's not much they (or NYCFC) can do. Five of the six "offending" games are on weekdays. It's not like they can move game times.

Lots of solutions available.

Sell the Yankee game to channel 9 or channel 11.
Nycfc could find a new broadcast partner.
Change the time of the nycfc kickoff.

Those are three reasonable solutions if you gave a fuck.
 
Lots of solutions available.

Sell the Yankee game to channel 9 or channel 11.
Nycfc could find a new broadcast partner.
Change the time of the nycfc kickoff.

Those are three reasonable solutions if you gave a fuck.

Some Yankees games are already on Ch. 11. I don't think it's as easy as just moving the game; Ch. 11 presumably doesn't want certain games. If it was that easy, they'd do it.

NYCFC can't find a new broadcast partner. These aren't year-by-year deals.

What time would you like to play weekday NYCFC games to not conflict with a Yankees game?

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but none of those solutions are reasonable.
 
Completely understandable. But again, what is YES supposed to do here? The Yankees are the most-watched team in sports aside from the NFL. We are not. They have to show the Yankees over NYCFC. Hopefully games will be on their overflow thing, but aside from that there's not much they (or NYCFC) can do. Five of the six "offending" games are on weekdays. It's not like they can move game times.

I get that. The reality is we'd be better off on a network like MSG that has so much content it had to build the infrastructure to show everything live, which happens routinely. We're on YES, which had 2 teams (Yanks and Nets) that rarely overlap and so never needed to build a YES2 platform Hell, regular YES has so little live content they probably fill more than half their time with reruns and infomercials.
 
I get that. The reality is we'd be better off on a network like MSG that has so much content it had to build the infrastructure to show everything live, which happens routinely. We're on YES, which had 2 teams (Yanks and Nets) that rarely overlap and so never needed to build a YES2 platform Hell, regular YES has so little live content they probably fill more than half their time with reruns and infomercials.

See, that's realistic and reasonable. The problem this year is that so many of our games are on weekdays. If the Yankees have a game at 7pm on a Wednesday, there's really nothing you can do. It's just a bad situation with no easy solution. We can either whine about it or we can make the best out of it.
 
See, that's realistic and reasonable. The problem this year is that so many of our games are on weekdays. If the Yankees have a game at 7pm on a Wednesday, there's really nothing you can do. It's just a bad situation with no easy solution. We can either whine about it or we can make the best out of it.

Also, ESPN is a broadcast partner. Do a nationally televised match on ESPN News or something (and don't black it out!), so it gets a live broadcast.
 
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Some Yankees games are already on Ch. 11. I don't think it's as easy as just moving the game; Ch. 11 presumably doesn't want certain games. If it was that easy, they'd do it.

NYCFC can't find a new broadcast partner. These aren't year-by-year deals.

What time would you like to play weekday NYCFC games to not conflict with a Yankees game?

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but none of those solutions are reasonable.

The Yankees make a profit by selling their broadcast rights to channel 11.

I’m not looking st this from a Yankees or NYCFC perspective. I’m looking at it from a YES Network broadcasting perspective.

If the network gave two shits about the team, they would use one of my (reasonable) solutions as a starting block.
 
Also, ESPN is a broadcast partner. Do a nationally televised match on ESPN News or something (and don't black it out!), so it gets a live broadcast.

YES could also sell the nycfc match to someone else. That is correct.
 
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Also, ESPN is a broadcast partner. Do a nationally televised match on ESPN News or something (and don't black it out!), so it gets a live broadcast.

ESPN does not like broadcasting NYCFC games from Yankee Stadium. If you notice over the years especially since year 1 there has been many more Fox games.