NYCFC Players Wanted Thread


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I think you missed (3) is the player at an age where its reasonably likely they will be fit and able to play a full season, (4) does the player have enough years left in the tank to stick around long enough (in my book at least 2 years) to build chemistry with teammates and not impact the stability of a club by creating a revolving door of key players. If you are bringing in a guy like Iniesta he's going to be one of the most important players on your team from both a tactics and pay stand point. Name a club in the world that turns over players that central to their core consistently year after year while sustaining success.

I'm not saying we expect them to come at 25 years old but ideally at the time they are coming they have enough left in the tank that they are choosing between a 2 year deal in the MLS and a 2 year deal with a club of decent quality in Europe. Villa could have signed a deal and started for a good Premier league or La Liga team at the time he came, Lampard was barely coming off the bench for MCFC.

Lampard signed with us from Chelsea.
 
I think we may eventually get there, but at this point this is wishful thinking IMHO. Iniesta is still a starter/or at least key cog for a Spanish national team that humiliated Argentina 2 weeks ago and may win the WC. When fit he was still influential in Barca this season, and was key 2 seasons ago, so you're simply dreaming if you think he would have taken up an offer to come to MLS at that point in his career. Unless we did a PSG kind of move and offered him 100 M, and then he would be doing it for the money exclusively. The gap between those rarefied heavens of soccer excellence and the level of play of our beloved club are still very very very wide, although they are shrinking. I would take Iniesta today in a heartbeat. And I think it is a fantasy to think that him or somebody of his caliber (a real top 10 golden ball player of a generation, the absolute creme de la creme) would consider MLS at age 30 or 32.
The thing is, he is playing with other top, top players in both the club and national context. That is not the case with MLS. I mean, our team is pretty fucking good for MLS, but I don't think players that are pure connectors can be all that effective when they are working with lesser players. I mean, how often do you see Iniesta shoot? Basically when it's the only option. I think this was the case with Pirlo and I fear it would be the case with Iniesta. At some point the craftsperson is limited by their materials. Maxi, Ring and Herrera are really good, but if Iniesta were to replace Herrera, I'm not sure Maxi and Ring would be good enough to do all of Iniesta's running. As a team, I'm not sure we'd keep the ball enough in order to prevent us from having to do all that running.
 
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The thing is, he is playing with other top, top players in both the club and national context. That is not the case with MLS. I mean, our team is pretty fucking good for MLS, but I don't think players that are pure connectors can be all that effective when they are working with lesser players. I mean, how often do you see Iniesta shoot? Basically when it's the only option. I think this was the case with Pirlo and I fear it would be the case with Iniesta. At some point the craftsperson is limited by their materials. Maxi, Ring and Herrera are really good, but if Iniesta were to replace Herrera, I'm not sure Maxi and Ring would be good enough to do all of Iniesta's running. As a team, I'm not sure we'd keep the ball enough in order to prevent us from having to do all that running.

I don't think the Iniesta/Pirlo is a good comparison. Iniesta is a dribbler and a short passer, who runs very well into tight spaces. His area of operation is around the box, towards the left wing. He's tailor-made for our game, and in fact if Barca didn't have Messi, Iniesta would more obviously be seen as a 10 that likes to drift left. Even more so, Barca quite frequently plays only one purely defensive midfielder (Busquets) with Rakitic and Iniesta (or Coutinho).

So a midfield of Iniesta, Maxi and Ring would surely work OK. Our strength would be in having 70% of meaningful possession and a lot more offensive creativity. One of the frequent criticisms of Maxi last year was that he likes to drift back too much. As we saw yesterday, if given space he's pretty darn good spraying long balls to fullbacks who like to run down the wing. He can still do that playing as an 8. Tinnerholm our Alba. Maxi our Rakitic. Iniesta our 10, Medina a false 9 and Villa ST with Tajouri more of a winger. Why not?
 
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I don't think the Iniesta/Pirlo is a good comparison. Iniesta is a dribbler and a short passer, who runs very well into tight spaces. His area of operation is around the box, towards the left wing. He's tailor-made for our game, and in fact if Barca didn't have Messi, Iniesta would more obviously be seen as a 10 that likes to drift left. Even more so, Barca quite frequently plays only one purely defensive midfielder (Busquets) with Rakitic and Iniesta (or Coutinho).

So a midfield of Iniesta, Maxi and Ring would surely work OK. Our strength would be in having 70% of meaningful possession and a lot more offensive creativity. One of the frequent criticisms of Maxi last year was that he likes to drift back too much. As we saw yesterday, if given space he's pretty darn good spraying long balls to fullbacks who like to run down the wing. He can still do that playing as an 8. Tinnerholm our Alba. Maxi our Rakitic. Iniesta our 10, Medina a false 9 and Villa ST with Tajouri more of a winger. Why not?
That's true. It's a slight difference that he can dribble. But at the end of the day he's still connecting the dots rather than being a pure and direct threat. I can see possible realities where it works out, but I'd still rather go and get a direct attacking threat.
 
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I was thinking about this -- I'm not really sure where reinforcements are needed right now. Unless we get some major injuries, this roster is good to go.

We can always improve somewhere. If Callens or Chanot goes down long term, we could get leaky. Hountondji was supposed to be the 3rd starting-caliber centerback, but it appears he's behind Ibeagha on the depth chart right now, a USL-level (i.e. replacement-level) player. A fifth CB (that would slot in 3rd on the depth chart) wouldn't be a bad addition. (Unless Sands is a CB now?)

Second, even though Matarrita played a great game yesterday, he has been injury prone and both him and Sweat are pretty inconsistent. I would have zero issues with bringing in a true stud LB and maybe traded Sweat for some allocation money, and use Mata as a spot starter at LB (and LW for defensive purposes). Mata could also be sold this summer after the World Cup if he plays.
 
We can always improve somewhere. If Callens or Chanot goes down long term, we could get leaky. Hountondji was supposed to be the 3rd starting-caliber centerback, but it appears he's behind Ibeagha on the depth chart right now, a USL-level (i.e. replacement-level) player. A fifth CB (that would slot in 3rd on the depth chart) wouldn't be a bad addition. (Unless Sands is a CB now?)
While the above is true about Ibeagha and Hountondji, it appears it has more to do with Ibeagha impressing (and getting the opportunity to do so with Chanot red card and Hountondji at the time being not fit) than it does Hountondji disappointing.

We really don't have enough data on Cedric yet to get an idea on what kind of quality he is.
 
While the above is true about Ibeagha and Hountondji, it appears it has more to do with Ibeagha impressing (and getting the opportunity to do so with Chanot red card and Hountondji at the time being not fit) than it does Hountondji disappointing.

We really don't have enough data on Cedric yet to get an idea on what kind of quality he is.
And to add, that “USL-caliber” CB is actually a quite solid MLS-caliber CB. He’s not Callens or Chanot, considering they’re all star quality, but Ibeagha has shown very well for himself.
 
And to add, that “USL-caliber” CB is actually a quite solid MLS-caliber CB. He’s not Callens or Chanot, considering they’re all star quality, but Ibeagha has shown very well for himself.

Pretty early on Ibeagha yet. I love using Bravo as an example of good first impressions leading to misaligned expectations. Ibeagha went from a second tier Iceland club to getting cut by Houston, to USL, to us. But centerbacks are late blooming, so maybe at 26 he is starting to bring another level.
 
Pretty early on Ibeagha yet. I love using Bravo as an example of good first impressions leading to misaligned expectations. Ibeagha went from a second tier Iceland club to getting cut by Houston, to USL, to us. But centerbacks are late blooming, so maybe at 26 he is starting to bring another level.
Maybe Houston isn’t a good evaluator of talent? Or maybe the system wasn’t a good fit for how he defends? Or maybe the guys around him were weak/created a weak link that impacted him? Or maybe he’s grown as a player? He was the top USL defender last season, so maybe that team brought out his best qualities? It’s akin (but slightly different) to what Pulisic said about himself, if he was in MLS/USL he’d likely be toiling to make the 18 because of the mentality of not playing youth and the tactics/teams wouldn’t bring out the best in him. Ibeagha fits nicely with NYCFC and PV isn’t afraid to let him play, even with a “weak” CV.