NYCFC Players Wanted Thread
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I don't think it's that Sweat is beating out Matarrita, I think the coaching staff (both coaching staffs) haven't wanted both Tinnerholm and Matarrita as the fullbacks together. I think it's Tinnerholm who's beating out Matarrita, even though he plays a different position.
Take tonight, for example. He took Tinnerholm off when he brought on Lewis, then slid Mata to fullback. I don't think Vieira or Dome have wanted Mata and Tinnerholm as the 2 fullbacks.
Tinny was gassed so he went off. Ibeagha can’t play as the outside defender in a 3CB formation, so somebody had to shift over, and evidently the coaches thought Sweat was more serviceable on the right than Mata would be.
I think you’re reading too much into the Tinny beating out Mata theory.
Edit: two different coaches, with two completely different views on many of our players, have used Sweat over Mata - I don’t think that’s a coincidence.
Maybe. They've started together on the backline once since April -- and that was the May 25 game at Houston.
And if I remember correctly, Mata looked horrible that match. Them not being paired again would be more indicative to Mata’s poor play in that match than anything else. The span after that, he then got injured on WC duty, and we went on a run of wins and a bunch of shutouts with the Sweat/Tinny pairing.
I think Michael Keaton might have been a better Batman than Bale. That growly voice.... Though Nolan's trilogy was light years better than Burton's films IMO. The true Night to day comparison would be if you used Adam West (entertaining as hell on it's own level but also crap) or The Bat nipples era of Clooney.
The prequels were bad though for me Last Jedi is even more unwatchable .
Back on topic, I think I'd really like a high level striker now . Starting to question if Villa will ever really be fit again this season...
The prequels were bad though for me Last Jedi is even more unwatchable .
Back on topic, I think I'd really like a high level striker now . Starting to question if Villa will ever really be fit again this season...
That’s a complete mischaracterization of what has gone on. You know that.
It’s completely disingenuous to pretend otherwise.
Why are you so hung up defending this guy? I don’t get it at all. He’s objectively our biggest weak spot, and it’s not close. Even our front office said we need to sign a left back. And they don’t say shit about shit. But that is literally how obvious it is that he isn’t good enough. “Might as well say it, hell, everyone can see.”
Except Ulrich, who will go to his grave next to Bob Abramowitz Oficial (1 F because it’s in Spanish) claiming Ben Sweat would have saved the US World Cup hopes.
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Either give facts as to how it’s a mischaracterization, or STFU.
A player that is always injured and has no desire to play defense because he’s never seen a chance to bomb forward that he didn’t take, is not a better option at defender. Full stop. Mata gets victimized every time he plays defense but nobody wants to admit it because it’s easier to jump on the bandwagon and blame Sweat, a guy that’s punching above his pay grade and has been consistently played by two coaches. It was Mata’s ole move that allowed Afful to dance by him for the winning goal last year in Columbus - and that was a far more costly error than anything Sweat has ever made.
Mata was dog shit today with heavy touches and a keen ability to kill offensive thrusts. Even as a defender, Sweat was putting in more dangerous crosses. And as I’ve stated before, the goals weren’t on Sweat, they’re on the midfielders that didn’t mark the guys scoring. It’s laughable to be mad at Sweat for giving up a throw in - that wasn’t the reason for the goal, it was because pretty boy Medina gave up on the play and let Shipp take an uncontested shot. Sheesh.....
You want to know why I defend the guy, because he busts his ass for a minimum salary, all the while putting in solid shifts for a top 2 team, and he holds his own on the offensive and defensive side. Is he a world beater, hell no, but he’s playing because he’s beaten out the presumptive LB with the big salary that the FO expected to be the starter. Good for him, he earned it. The fact that the club has even discussed bringing in another LB is more damning to Mata than Sweat because it shows they have no faith in Mata to play that position since they haven’t handed it back to him; they may not even have faith in him to play wing if since they’re bringing in Valentin to play wing.
Lastly, I call it like I see it. I’ve slammed Sweat when he’s had bad games, just like I slam anybody else on the team - Villa, Maxi, and Chanot included, and now Medina. So I don’t play favorites. What I do expect is that the guys making more money better be producing more to justify their places, and hence I’ve been extremely critical of Medina.
I can take everything you say as fact, and it changes nothing about my position that he’s not good enough to start at lb for us.
This is players wanted, not players we have. I want a replacement. When we get one, I’ll “STFU” about him.
I literally lol'ed at this.
If you're talking about the 3rd goal in every soccer system I've played based on where his run starts Lewis was the one that should have covered Shipp's run. But I'm sure he was standing flatfooted ball watching because he assignment is to be the outlet man certainly not because he plays no defense.
starts at 3:22 in the highlights: https://matchcenter.mlssoccer.com/m...s-fc-vs-new-york-city-fc/details/video/165212
You claimed I mischaracterized the situation (that’s what the STFU was in reference to, but you even misplayed that), you asked pointed questions regarding my defense of Sweat - which were answered in earnest, and then you hide behind the thread name because what I wrote was accurate and factual???
For a guy that egotistically talks down to most of the forum, your retort was a Grade A example of moving the goal posts when it didn’t fit your narrative. When you’re not trying to make something personal, you add incredible insight to the discussion, but you’ve fallen off the tracks with this one. Go opine about Liverpool or Saleh or Klopp.
Yeah, maybe it was Lewis’ man (good graphic) -but on the video replay yesterday, from the goal side, it was Medina who picked Shipp up in the box (the team typically hands players off as they go into different zones) and then stopped tracking letting Shipp get his shot off. And if Lewis was supposed to track all the way in, then he fcked up.
Either way, Sweat wasn’t responsible for that goal.
Right. Medina showed no urgency in closing him down, which was pretty much the story for the team last night. No urgency in anything.
Yeah I don't think the third goal was was on Sweat at all, he did get megged on the first goal but generally I agree with you that he's performed well beyond his pay grade.
No one can argue Lewis' talent but I think moments like the third goal are what have kept him from getting starts. It's the 84th min we are pressing for a point, Lewis is one of the freshest players on the field having come on at the 60th min and only played 19 min in Orlando he can't quit on defense like that if he wants to earn a starting spot. He played better defense for about the first 20 min after he came on but then he sort of checked out on that end.
Medina and Sweat both start the play by going to trap a guy already fully bodied up by Ibeagha, for Sweat that seems like the right play but I'm not sure that's where Medina's supposed to be. I agree Medina was lazy closing back up but I think his bigger mistake was dropping in the first place. I can't tell who the Seattle player is at the top corner of the box for simplicity let's guess "Lodiero". Medina should have stayed with Lodiero rather than dropping to help on a guy already bracketed by a RB and a CB. Shipp makes his run right off the shoulder of Lodiero who stays hovering at the top of the box, had Medina stayed on Lodiero even when Lewis missed the pick up Medina could have switched off his guy and picked up Shipp allowing the trailing Lewis to recover from his ball gazing and pick up Lodiero.
That 3rd goal was on Lewis.
Team has spoken to 2 LBs. I don't know if either gets done. One is the Czech player from Legia Warsaw. The other is a young French player.
Team has spoken to 2 LBs. I don't know if either gets done. One is the Czech player from Legia Warsaw. The other is a young French player.
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