NYCFC Players Wanted Thread


Dome's system is going to try to be too nuanced to play Lewis. Lewis attacks and puts the ball in the net, he doesn't "beautifully' walk the ball into the goal. They should just trade him now, and stop wasting his time. His value is sky high, send him to a team that values his directness and scoring ability let him flourish while we lose games with zeros in the goal column while Dome congratulates himself for winning possession and Xg.
 
Dome's system is going to try to be too nuanced to play Lewis. Lewis attacks and puts the ball in the net, he doesn't "beautifully' walk the ball into the goal. They should just trade him now, and stop wasting his time. His value is sky high, send him to a team that values his directness and scoring ability let him flourish while we lose games with zeros in the goal column while Dome congratulates himself for winning possession and Xg.
You build an offense around what Lewis can do.... speed, technical skill, ability to trap (maybe Medina should watch him play), ankle-breaking moves, lifts his head to look for a player to pass to..... the defensive issues are a red herring and an excuse as many attackers have lapses yet still get time. I’d always rather win 5-4 than 1-0 - if that lone goal doesn’t come, it’s more likely dropped points, at least play to score/win.

I’m just glad that Berhalter gave him a chance and was rewarded for doing so - Lewis’ skillset is something that could benefit the MNT.
 
You build an offense around what Lewis can do.... speed, technical skill, ability to trap (maybe Medina should watch him play), ankle-breaking moves, lifts his head to look for a player to pass to..... the defensive issues are a red herring and an excuse as many attackers have lapses yet still get time. I’d always rather win 5-4 than 1-0 - if that lone goal doesn’t come, it’s more likely dropped points, at least play to score/win.

I’m just glad that Berhalter gave him a chance and was rewarded for doing so - Lewis’ skillset is something that could benefit the MNT.

I completely agree but we all know that's not the Dome/CFG/NYCFC way so why put Lewis and all of us fans through another season of this. Send him somewhere that appreciates his talent, will build the attack around him, give him min and let him flourish. We all know how this plays out if he stays. Lewis comes back and they are forced to give him appearances because of how well he showed for the USMNT. He scores goals because that's what he does but he doesn't float around correctly with an inverted full back or some nonsense like that so he's deemed unplayable and back to rotting on the bench while we struggle to score.
 
I’d always rather win 5-4 than 1-0 - if that lone goal doesn’t come, it’s more likely dropped points
Technicality, but an economist would tell you this is faulty logic. A team that typically wins 5-4 will drop more points than a team that typically wins 1-0. It's just that the 5-4 team will be hella fun to watch.
 
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Technicality, but an economist would tell you this is faulty logic. A team that typically wins 5-4 will drop more points than a team that typically wins 1-0. It's just that the 5-4 team will be hella fun to watch.
Can you explain this for a relative simpleton? I totally understand -- I'm just asking for someone else.
 
Technicality, but an economist would tell you this is faulty logic. A team that typically wins 5-4 will drop more points than a team that typically wins 1-0. It's just that the 5-4 team will be hella fun to watch.
Not sure I follow that. If your team averages a goal, there’s always a chance you’ll score more or score less. Less means at best you get a single point with the chance of a loss if the opponent scores. Playing for a shutout is open to achieving it or giving up a goal(s) if unsuccessful- and if you only score one yourself, you’ve again dropped points.

Whereas if you average 5 for and 4 against, there’s always the possibility that your defense can play better than normal lowering the amount given up thus requiring fewer scored (if you’re having an off day) to secure points. Granted, it could always swing the other way too and you score fewer while giving up the same or more, but if you’ve got an offense that can avg 5/game, there aren’t going to be a lot of matches where you’re stymied.

And yes, it would be a lot more fun to watch.
 
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Can you explain this for a relative simpleton? I totally understand -- I'm just asking for someone else.
It's a matter of bell curves and standard deviations. You have two scenarios where the means are the same distance apart - 1 goal, and the standard deviations are likely significantly different.

It's likely that a team playing 1-0 games has lower standard deviations for both their own and their opponents' scoring. In other words there is less variability, much less likely significant wild swings in the scoring.

In other words, lower standard deviations makes the bell curves for the teams' scoring tall and thin, like so (excuse my kindergarten level drawing of all this):

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Whereas the 5-4 team will have higher standard deviations or more variability in their scoring (and their opponents'), leading to shorter, fatter bell curves, like so:

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To maximize winning you want as much space as possible between the curves on the right side. So the 1-0 would look like this:

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A fairly simplified view would be that the green represents wins. The blue, ties. The red, losses. That's not exactly accurate but it serves our purpose here. Vs the chart for the 5-4 option:

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On here you can see that there is more red relative to the green.

Or, if you prefer to just see it in numbers, here's a list of game scores using a random number generator set to means of 0, 1, 4 and 5 and normal distributions with a standard deviation of 1 for the 0/1 columns and 2 for the 4/5 columns. I did 100 games and collapsed around 70 rows so I could fit it all in one picture.

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You can see that the PPG favors the scenario where NYCFC scores 1 on average. But, you might point out that some of these games have scores with negative goals. If we eliminate all of those games, we get this:

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Again, you can see that the PPG favors the 1-0 scenario.

And if anyone wants to play with the numbers, the data I used for this are in this spreadsheet in sheets 3 and 4.

ETA: thank you for encouraging and indulging my geeking out on this.