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Sit bench the Red Bull bench? They sit behind the away bench, that's where I am sitting. I support my own team more than I like to heckle the opponents. They have a different agenda. And my not dressing like them, jabronis.


Doubtful.


One scarf. Raised high, obnoxiously. I only wear one scarf now a game after the playoff debacle of four scarves. The only exception is for July 4th weekend games where I also bring along a US scarf for the national anthem.

Just sit there and...
 

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I used the word "gobble"? You sure that was me? In what context?

Very possible, I just don't remember.

Players & ref were all gobbling
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Saturday afternoon. We were both impressed with your diction, a very comprehensive verb.

I apologize, I did 3 or 4 takes throughout the 1st half, wasn't confident it was you enough to ask. USMNT roadtrip to Philly did get rowdy.... Hope you sit with JGarrettLieb again soon! Great company.

Perfect game to wear the Chanot jersey JGarrettLieb
 
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Players & ref were all gobbling
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Saturday afternoon. We were both impressed with your diction, a very comprehensive verb.

I apologize, I did 3 or 4 takes throughout the 1st half, wasn't confident it was you enough to ask. USMNT roadtrip to Philly did get rowdy.... Hope you sit with JGarrettLieb again soon! Great company.

Perfect game to wear the Chanot jersey JGarrettLieb
Wow. That's not one I actually use regularly at all, since it could arguably be taken as not politically correct. Must have been pretty poor officiating.

No worries - I was equally embarrassed we sat practically side by side for 2 hours before I noticed you. Goes to show where my attention is during games.
 
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It says "David Villa" so I was going to like this no matter what, but it is actually a pretty cool concept, since you get to see the movement off the ball. I wonder if this is something they will continue doing for games and other players


I really like this video concept. There's actually a player in the US (lower league) that has a great YouTube channel showing footage of all his movements during a game and explaining why he does it. Great for younger players to watch. Obviously, we don't want to give the opposition any more research against us, but seeing how different players move throughout the game would be awesome. Next one do Maxi, then Ring, then Chanot. Everyone on the field is important.
 
I really like this video concept. There's actually a player in the US (lower league) that has a great YouTube channel showing footage of all his movements during a game and explaining why he does it. Great for younger players to watch. Obviously, we don't want to give the opposition any more research against us, but seeing how different players move throughout the game would be awesome. Next one do Maxi, then Ring, then Chanot. Everyone on the field is important.
And would be cool to see the different movements of different positions in general.
 
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Sit bench the Red Bull bench? They sit behind the away bench, that's where I am sitting. I support my own team more than I like to heckle the opponents. They have a different agenda. And my not dressing like them, jabronis.


Doubtful.


One scarf. Raised high, obnoxiously. I only wear one scarf now a game after the playoff debacle of four scarves. The only exception is for July 4th weekend games where I also bring along a US scarf for the national anthem.
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I used the word "gobble"? You sure that was me? In what context?

Very possible, I just don't remember.
Your Girlfriend???? This women who ever she is Deserves one of those Medals of Honor or something like that for sure ! How dose one look up her advice column on the net ? I got some Questions for her that's for Damn Sure! Your Dan Bucks should automatically go to her Bank Account ! Hell she's welcome to all of mine I'v never used them and to this day don't understand what they go for ? God Bless Her ! :p:p:p
 
My first post is not going to be about the game. It's going to be about something off the field that stood out as the lowlight of the season. If you know who I am in real life, or at least on Twitter, I posted this publicly. Because for it to happen is irresponsible.

Vince and Vance Moss, surgeons who live in New Jersey and served in our military. They are also public in MLS circles as Red Bull fans and more notably as arrogant ones. See last year, them getting in the face of Didier Drogba...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...ogant-and-a-sore-loser-he-told-us-to-be-resp/

These two individuals have a history of accosting opposing players and coaches.

They were in attendance today. I noticed them in the Legends suite sitting with another Pitchside season ticket holder who I've seen at many games in the past. Based on this, I'd say that they were invited by this individual. They were dressed in sport coats and wearing Philadelphia Union scarves. As an NYCFC fan, I would never wear the scarf of another team to a match.

Before the game, Jim Curtin comes over to the NYCFC side of the field and shakes their hand. Does Curtin know who they really are? I can't answer that. But they were rooting for the Union and wearing Union scarves, so there's that.

They're fine during the course of the game, not making any scenes.

Then comes the Union goal. One of the brothers, I cannot tell which one, leaves PS1 which is the one closer to the corner flag and makes his way, Union scarf above his head, toward PS2 in the direction of the NYCFC bench. He gets as close as he can to Vieira and starts saying some language and in a manner that would "cross the line". Vieira turns around and responds with some kind language himself. Moss continues to accost Vieira and Vieira steps over the video boards. They are face to face as the NYCFC and Yankee Stadium security come to separate them. Nothing gets physical. Patrick goes back to the NYCFC bench, the Moss brothers goes back to his seat with Yankee Stadium security nearby him.

Vieira is likely to see a suspension, maybe multiple games, for leaving the bench/tactical area and entering a fan section.

Though, these brothers have a history and continually create a hostile environment where some worse can happen if escalated. And this continued behavior by them needs to be addressed by the league office. You can't have fans like them continued to be allowed to accost players in the manner in which they do.

After we scored the first goal, Vieira had his fist in the air and looked right at these guys. After the game, same thing. Vieira and Curtin spoke after the game, and I think Vieira said something to Jim about these guys. Jim Curtin then went back over to these guys after the game and said something.

I get angry, I get heated at referees and opposing players and coaches. But I never swear, never accost, never get into confrontation. It's sporting fun and in good taste. "Do your job" to referees. "Sit down" to opposing coaches. "Never forget 2014" to Wondo.

They create hostile environments, are aggressors, and agitators. I would ban these individuals from all MLS stadiums, games, and events.

As Drogba said in the article, these guys needs to be more respectful or in my opinion never be allowed to come to an MLS game again.

Has this been raised to the front office by the supporters groups? Or are we just relying on individual season ticket holders to reach out to the FO? Happy to reach out, but just wondering if it's already handled. Obviously the FO is aware of it, since Vieira was "involved" but I think added pressure from season ticket holders and fans in general couldn't hurt. If the security team they're providing (Securitas?) during the games can't even protect our own team and coach, how can I expect them to protect fans? I didn't see this myself (must've been the angle from my seats), but if it's as bad as everyone's saying, then the club needs to do something about it.
 
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Has this been raised to the front office by the supporters groups? Or are we just relying on individual season ticket holders to reach out to the FO? Happy to reach out, but just wondering if it's already handled. Obviously the FO is aware of it, since Vieira was "involved" but I think added pressure from season ticket holders and fans in general couldn't hurt. If the security team they're providing (Securitas?) during the games can't even protect our own team and coach, how can I expect them to protect fans? I didn't see this myself (must've been the angle from my seats), but if it's as bad as everyone's saying, then the club needs to do something about it.

Supporters groups aren't going to reach out because they're sitting far, far away from where it happened. It's not their problem. It only affected the fans that sit in the Pitchside seats, who may be a member of a supporter group like myself. They are the only ones who should voice their concern due to keeping where they sit safe from accosting opposing fans. I've addressed my concerns publicly. I will write a letter next week if I do not hear something regarding the situation from NYCFC or MLS.
 
Supporters groups aren't going to reach out because they're sitting far, far away from where it happened. It's not their problem. It only affected the fans that sit in the Pitchside seats, who may be a member of a supporter group like myself. They are the only ones who should voice their concern due to keeping where they sit safe from accosting opposing fans. I've addressed my concerns publicly. I will write a letter next week if I do not hear something regarding the situation from NYCFC or MLS.

Thanks, Lion. Really appreciate you taking all that on.

With all due respect, though, I do disagree that the fans in that section are the only one who should voice their concern. It may not be other STH or fans' section, but those guys (or others like them) could sit anywhere the next time around... and it's not just about these two guys, it's about the club (and league) doing the right thing and protecting the coach, players and all fans, and the atmosphere. No matter where it happens, we're all in the stadium together.

Anyway, I guess individuals will speak to ticket reps or whomever if they are so inclined. Thanks again for raising it, Lion.
 
Thanks, Lion. Really appreciate you taking all that on.

With all due respect, though, I do disagree that the fans in that section are the only one who should voice their concern. It may not be other STH or fans' section, but those guys (or others like them) could sit anywhere the next time around... and it's not just about these two guys, it's about the club (and league) doing the right thing and protecting the coach, players and all fans, and the atmosphere. No matter where it happens, we're all in the stadium together.

Anyway, I guess individuals will speak to ticket reps or whomever if they are so inclined. Thanks again for raising it, Lion.

You have a point though that I failed to think. These guys can sit anywhere in the stadium and can ruin any fans experience at Yankee Stadium. Though, I think the next time we see them around at Yankee Stadium will be at the same seating location if they can get those tickets again, or if they're given those tickets again by a season ticket holder.
 
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You have a point though that I failed to think. These guys can sit anywhere in the stadium and can ruin any fans experience at Yankee Stadium. Though, I think the next time we see them around at Yankee Stadium will be at the same seating location if they can get those tickets again, or if they're given those tickets again by a season ticket holder.
If Vieira gets suspended it affects all of us.
 
Supporters groups aren't going to reach out because they're sitting far, far away from where it happened. It's not their problem. It only affected the fans that sit in the Pitchside seats, who may be a member of a supporter group like myself. They are the only ones who should voice their concern due to keeping where they sit safe from accosting opposing fans. I've addressed my concerns publicly. I will write a letter next week if I do not hear something regarding the situation from NYCFC or MLS.
Please write the letter. I can't imagine how angry I would be if that were the game where I had stepped up for the expensive seats only to have it ruined by a couple of Red Fool fans while the Club does nothing.

ETA: This really deserves its own thread. One that can be called to the Club's attention. I may even write a letter myself explaining how events like these and Orlando and with Tim Howard have me wondering whether I should bring my family to the games.
 
Please write the letter. I can't imagine how angry I would be if that were the game where I had stepped up for the expensive seats only to have it ruined by a couple of Red Fool fans while the Club does nothing.

ETA: This really deserves its own thread. One that can be called to the Club's attention. I may even write a letter myself explaining how events like these and Orlando and with Tim Howard have me wondering whether I should bring my family to the games.


Maybe we can authorize you to sign the letter on our behalf as well. Just post a draft on a thread and we can "virtually sign" allowing you to use our name as co-signors to the actual letter or email. Strength in numbers. While we may not have all seen the events first hand, written published accounts and past events with these idiots is enough to justify it. Maybe it's hokey. But it's a thought.