Toronto - Postmatch

Villa and Berget partnering with Shradi and Medina wide?

This is an ideal front line but would leave Maxi in a midfield two—kind of a dicey look against good teams. Maybe keeping Sweat inverted and using Maxi in Ring's advanced mid role would mitigate the defensive transition problem, but that's still an awfully top-heavy lineup.

(Which actually now that I think about it would be fun as hell and we should definitely do it.)
 
This is an ideal front line but would leave Maxi in a midfield two—kind of a dicey look against good teams. Maybe keeping Sweat inverted and using Maxi in Ring's advanced mid role would mitigate the defensive transition problem, but that's still an awfully top-heavy lineup.

(Which actually now that I think about it would be fun as hell and we should definitely do it.)
How is that different than yesterday when it was the same but with Maxi playing up front instead of Villa? It still just left Ring and Ofori in the midfield supported by Sweat.

I’d frankly take Medina off that front line so Maxi stays advanced with the others. Medina is just to hesitant and soft on the ball.
 
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How is that different than yesterday when it was the same but with Maxi playing up front instead of Villa? It still just left Ring and Ofori in the midfield supported by Sweat.

I’d frankly take Medina off that front line so Maxi stays advanced with the others. Medina is just to hesitant and soft on the ball.

Here's our second-half look in possession:

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Maxi was Player 11, Ring 6, Ofori 7. In K Kjbert's scenario you've got Villa and Berget up top, Maxi slides down to 6, Ring to 7, and Ofori's on the bench.

Domè didn't trust that midfield when Villa was playing so he started Maxi on the left wing, but maybe the improved defensive structure after he tucked Sweat inside will make it viable.
 
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I feel like this is one of those 50-50 calls where it’s so subjective.

I just thought it leaned more towards being a PK because he also had his other arm back, and the ball hit that arm as well


Good post. It's a tough call. The fact that the ball hits his chest and then caroms into his arm to me takes it away from being a deliberate handball. Interesting to see it also hit the trailing arm, which is what really stopped it. Hard to hold that against the player, however, since the arm was down behind his torso where it should be.

On the handball thing, I heard or read somewhere just in the past couple of days that FIFA instruction to refs is that when a defender is going to ground, a ball that hits the ground side arm is not a handball. If it hits the defender’s top arm and it’s away from his body, it would be a handball.

Pretty sure that was during the Korea/Mexico match
Plausible. That was definitely the context it was brought up in, so seems right.

I think it might even have been Dr. Joe in that match.
 
Germany vs USA 2002????

I listened to a podcast a year ago - I think it was Grant Wahl with Howard Webb.* Webb said he thought that was a penalty and a red because Frings was making himself big in the box and didn't try and move his hand. The discussion referenced the official on the field who addressed the play publicly and said he saw it clearly and thought it was "ball-to-hand" - i.e. that the German player didn't have time to react, so no penalty.

I think the play in 2002 was pretty clearly a penalty. "Ball-to-hand" assumes the hand is in a "natural position" - i.e. you aren't making yourself big. Defenders guarding the post on a corner kick know to keep their hands down and behind their backs; his was up and somewhat outstretched.
 
This is an ideal front line but would leave Maxi in a midfield two—kind of a dicey look against good teams. Maybe keeping Sweat inverted and using Maxi in Ring's advanced mid role would mitigate the defensive transition problem, but that's still an awfully top-heavy lineup.

(Which actually now that I think about it would be fun as hell and we should definitely do it.)
I don't think we are going to see a 442 every game. I think we playes the two forwards to split the gaps a of the 3 ATB and shadow Bradley. If Man City was any indication, they played 7 or 8 different formations under Pep this season.
 
I don't think we are going to see a 442 every game. I think we playes the two forwards to split the gaps a of the 3 ATB and shadow Bradley. If Man City was any indication, they played 7 or 8 different formations under Pep this season.

Yeah I expect to stick with 4-3-3 as the base formation, but we'll see. I was impressed at how controlled we managed to look in the 4-2-4. As for Pep's tactical baroque, that's probably a little much for this team in Torrent's first season. I'll be happy if we can develop even just one fully functional formation.
 
Yeah I expect to stick with 4-3-3 as the base formation, but we'll see. I was impressed at how controlled we managed to look in the 4-2-4. As for Pep's tactical baroque, that's probably a little much for this team in Torrent's first season. I'll be happy if we can develop even just one fully functional formation.
MLS doesn't really have a lot of tactic diversity so I doubt we see alot compared to Man City, but we will see more than Vieria put out that's for sure.
 
This is an ideal front line but would leave Maxi in a midfield two—kind of a dicey look against good teams. Maybe keeping Sweat inverted and using Maxi in Ring's advanced mid role would mitigate the defensive transition problem, but that's still an awfully top-heavy lineup.

(Which actually now that I think about it would be fun as hell and we should definitely do it.)

Isn't that essentially how we played yesterday? Except Ring was in Maxi's hypothetical role?
 
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Isn't that essentially how we played yesterday? Except Ring was in Maxi's hypothetical role?

Right, see my reply to Ulrich above. The problem with dropping Maxi to the Player 6 slot (the forward midfielder in the 4-2-4) is that you've now got one defensive midfielder on the pitch instead of two. Ring did a lot of distribution in the second half but he was also central to defensive transitions, which obviously isn't Maxi's forte.
 
Right, see my reply to Ulrich above. The problem with dropping Maxi to the Player 6 slot (the forward midfielder in the 4-2-4) is that you've now got one defensive midfielder on the pitch instead of two. Ring did a lot of distribution in the second half but he was also central to defensive transitions, which obviously isn't Maxi's forte.

Wouldn't that just be us playing on our front foot? Don't we want that?