White Supremacists In Supporter Section

I am a hard time seeing how there are two sides to this story. Everyone's feelings about Shaun King, how to label far right groups, and 4chan hand signals are not the issue and are completely irrelevant to our club.

Issue is that our club has given a very underwelming response. They have had opportunities for years make decisive public statements and actions, but they have choose the hush hush crisis PR consultant strategy.

I don't really see how people can think that these claims are unsubstantiated. If you look at every major incident of fan violence, thehse assholes have been the common factor either directly (don't get confused about all of these rebrands) or intergrated in the NYCSC/Los Templados banner.

Sandwich board fight incident in Newark at first derby at Red Bull Arena

Fights with Cosmos supporters and throwing stuff on the field during first US Open Cup match

Fights with Cosmos supporters for the US Open Cup game at Fordham. Far right nycfc theme banner displayed.

Numerous incidents at Yankee Stadium of them traveling to the away section at halftime. There have been fans beat up, scraves stolen for cool Instagram pics. This forced the team and Yankee Stafium to drastically increase police presence by away section.

They were in the away section for the Philadelphia fight/bottle throwing.

They been pictured pregaming with ACAB banners.
It was NYCSC/Los Templados memebers that were arrested for assaulting police officers away at Orlando City.

Now, we have substantiated that there is a crosssection of this group who are members of the far right ultra nationalist 211 boot boys have been involved political violence and arrested for gang assault multiple times already with an incident this summer and with the proud boys last week. They have been openly wearing their colors in the supporters section all year.

Dont let the politics confuse you. If these assholes are far left, far right, pastafarians, the condemnation from the club should be exactly the same.


Bravo (seriously)
 
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now or in the future? if i had to guess he was probably buying his own tickets. In the future sure its possible. Security would have to recognize him and kick him out.
Meant now. Would hope it wouldn’t matter in the future because the gates/security would have his picture.
 
Some of the posters here looking real funny style. If you're copping pleas for these guys, that let's me know what kind of person you are.
 
I don't like the club getting bad press but if this is what it's going to take to get them to cut out the rotten parts of our fanbase then so be it.
The one "prominent" SG member ive seen defending some of these guys is Jonathan and he's quite cozy with the front office.
 
this is going to be an unpopular opinion here but i personally dont believe in banning fans based on their political opinions. as shitty as i think those opinions may be. If they do something criminal let the police handle it. if they do something at the game ban them and let security and the police handle it. You dont have to like them, and you dont have to like the people that allow them into their circles. But i think banning people based on their beliefs is a dangerous game to play. I also think Tommy Miles crusade is reckless and hes going out of his way to make ties and dox people that may or may not be involved.
 
this is going to be an unpopular opinion here but i personally dont believe in banning fans based on their political opinions.
Agree with this on its face. Though when you start to talk about inclusion within supporters groups and what that association says about other members within the group, it's something to consider.
If they do something criminal let the police handle it. if they do something at the game ban them and let security and the police handle it.
I may be mixing things up, but isn't this the same group that was involved in the sandwich board incident in NJ? As well as other physical altercations that have occurred?
You dont have to like them, and you dont have to like the people that allow them into their circles. But i think banning people based on their beliefs is a dangerous game to play.
Again, high level agree here. But ultimately including people within your supporters group that have extreme views and a violent past is a bit dangerous. Especially when you're talking about an official supporters group that the club has approved. That could get taken away as the club would want nothing to do with that.
But i think banning people based on their beliefs is a dangerous game to play.
Agreed, but again, there appears to be a lot more than just beliefs in play here.
I also think Tommy Miles crusade is reckless and hes going out of his way to make ties and dox people that may or may not be involved.
Perhaps he is. But he seems to have this very well documented with quite a lot of photographic documentation. It at least doesn't appear to be completely baseless.
 
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this is going to be an unpopular opinion here but i personally dont believe in banning fans based on their political opinions. as shitty as i think those opinions may be. If they do something criminal let the police handle it. if they do something at the game ban them and let security and the police handle it. You dont have to like them, and you dont have to like the people that allow them into their circles. But i think banning people based on their beliefs is a dangerous game to play. I also think Tommy Miles crusade is reckless and hes going out of his way to make ties and dox people that may or may not be involved.
We should just let them come in full Nazi uniforms, flags or klan robes then. I dont want my club to be associated with garbage and I don't want a club that condones that kind of shit. It's crazy to me that this country went from going to war against Nazis to people being neo Nazi apologists.
 
We should just let them come in full Nazi uniforms, flags or klan robes then. I dont want my club to be associated with garbage and I don't want a club that condones that kind of shit. It's crazy to me that this country went from going to war against Nazis to people being neo Nazi apologists.
Sounds like your deliberately being ignorant and ignoring his position.
 
We should just let them come in full Nazi uniforms, flags or klan robes then. I dont want my club to be associated with garbage and I don't want a club that condones that kind of shit. It's crazy to me that this country went from going to war against Nazis to people being neo Nazi apologists.
It comments like this that make me not even want to express my opinion and why open and honest discussions about a sensitive subject can’t be had. I’ve now been labeled a Neo nazi apologist. Done with this thread, y’all enjoy.
 
It comments like this that make me not even want to express my opinion and why open and honest discussions about a sensitive subject can’t be had. I’ve now been labeled a Neo nazi apologist. Done with this thread, y’all enjoy.
If your position had merit you'd be more willing to defend it. That's on you.