Domènec Torrent Appointed NYCFC Head Coach (June '18) / Mutually Agree to Part Ways (November '19)

What Are Your Thoughts on Torrent as NYCFC Head Coach?

  • Quite Really Pleased

    Votes: 8 20.5%
  • Really Pleased

    Votes: 13 33.3%
  • Pleased

    Votes: 16 41.0%
  • Neither Pleased or Displeased

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Displeased

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Really Displeased

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Quite Really Displeased

    Votes: 1 2.6%

  • Total voters
    39
I'm trying to pick out the best stuff without giving away the whole article:

"At least I know from the outset that I have good players, but not the right ones to play as I have almost always played, both when I was first coach in Catalunya and when I was with Pep Guardiola. Assuming a 4-3-3 with open ends and stuck to the line could not do it. But that did not worry me so much. I saw that there was a good team."

So I guess 4-3-3 is his first choice?

He speaks with Pep at least once every week.

He says whether we play his preferred way next year depends on who the club signs. The sporting staff know his preferences but salary cap and international player restrictions must be considered. He has hopes the newcomers help, plus he likes "to work with the quarry "[source/origin?] and he says there are several players in the Academy good enough to play.

He says they did not compete well against Atlanta and "were very conditioned" [undone/hampered?] by the 0-1 result in a very even first match.

The specific system is less important than the basic idea of space and position and being good with the ball and playing fast under pressure with 1 or 2 touches. Quique Setién at Betis plays 5 at the back but it is still based on the Cruyff style.

I tried to improve on the google translation with the above paraphrases.

My favorite unaltered google translate portion is "MLS is growing a lot. The amateurs go to the field to have fun and that is very nice. Every game day they live it as a show."
I know that's what I do. Every game day. I live it as a show. Like the amateur I am.

I think that's the main takeaways. I don't want to post more from a pay-per-copy magazine.

I would be willing to share some Spanish extracts with Fantazma Fantazma to see if he gleans any better meaning, but I can't right now because I left the original pdf at home.
 
That basically replaces Villa's contribution from this year, but Villa only played 23 games. And we limped to third place, would have been much worse under Torrent for the entire season.

If we have a couple other high profile hit signings, such as a CM and a winger, then yes we could push back to the top tier. But more likely, we'll be a tier two team with 2-3 other squads behind ATL and NYRB.

In general though, this discussion is way too premature.
Fair enough.
 
I'm trying to pick out the best stuff without giving away the whole article:

"At least I know from the outset that I have good players, but not the right ones to play as I have almost always played, both when I was first coach in Catalunya and when I was with Pep Guardiola. Assuming a 4-3-3 with open ends and stuck to the line could not do it. But that did not worry me so much. I saw that there was a good team."

So I guess 4-3-3 is his first choice?

He speaks with Pep at least once every week.

He says whether we play his preferred way next year depends on who the club signs. The sporting staff know his preferences but salary cap and international player restrictions must be considered. He has hopes the newcomers help, plus he likes "to work with the quarry "[source/origin?] and he says there are several players in the Academy good enough to play.

He says they did not compete well against Atlanta and "were very conditioned" [undone/hampered?] by the 0-1 result in a very even first match.

The specific system is less important than the basic idea of space and position and being good with the ball and playing fast under pressure with 1 or 2 touches. Quique Setién at Betis plays 5 at the back but it is still based on the Cruyff style.

I tried to improve on the google translation with the above paraphrases.

My favorite unaltered google translate portion is "MLS is growing a lot. The amateurs go to the field to have fun and that is very nice. Every game day they live it as a show."
I know that's what I do. Every game day. I live it as a show. Like the amateur I am.

I think that's the main takeaways. I don't want to post more from a pay-per-copy magazine.

I would be willing to share some Spanish extracts with Fantazma Fantazma to see if he gleans any better meaning, but I can't right now because I left the original pdf at home.

im assuming the word used to translate to "quarry" was actually "Cantera". if so he means the academy. Thats how they call the academy in spanish and in like 99% of latin america too.

he probably said something like: "me gusta trabajar con la cantera" is so he means he likes working with academy kids in his teams. should theoretically be good news for sands/ scally/ and academy newcomers but will be remain to be seen if its true. normally in spain kids do get chances but if they dont they tend to get sent right away to the B teams or other teams on loans. so i dont think we will wait much past preseason to know if anyone goes on loan or not. we already seen it this year with the two quick loans to louisville.

as for the rest of article mgarbowski mgarbowski you can send me the PM if you want to see if i can add any more context to quotes.
 
Assuming a 4-3-3 with open ends and stuck to the line could not do it. But that did not worry me so much. I saw that there was a good team."

So I guess 4-3-3 is his first choice?

Would you please post the original Spanish of the excerpts you choose to share?

What he's describing there—a 4-3-3 with true wingers on the touchline—is the City-style 4-1-4-1 I've been talking about. He called it a 4-3-3 after the Vancouver game too.
 
Would you please post the original Spanish of the excerpts you choose to share?

What he's describing there—a 4-3-3 with true wingers on the touchline—is the City-style 4-1-4-1 I've been talking about. He called it a 4-3-3 after the Vancouver game too.

im very intrigued in this articles as well....seems like a legit X's and O's article. they do alot of these in spain and they usually are good reads but they to charge for them. i have only been able to see a couple samples here and there.
 
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He speaks with Pep at least once every week.

My favorite unaltered google translate portion is "MLS is growing a lot. The amateurs go to the field to have fun and that is very nice. Every game day they live it as a show."
I know that's what I do. Every game day. I live it as a show. Like the amateur I am.

I wonder what they discuss. Set pieces? Jazz music?

And that is a great line. Add it to the Don Garber bingo board of MLS quotes.
 
For me, Shradi's play was the biggest sign of change between Vieira and Dome.

For the first half of the season, watching him cut inside and break people on the dribble to send short passes and launch shots was tremendous.

For the second half of the season, watching him send in bad crosses to short people was tedious at best.

If Dome doesn't want him to cut inside, then the team should sell him.
 
Would you please post the original Spanish of the excerpts you choose to share?
Can't really do that. A couple are quotes via google, but for all the rest I usually made one sharp coherent sentence out of the key bits of 2-4 rambling sentences. So to post all of that would probably go beyond fair use.

im very intrigued in this articles as well....seems like a legit X's and O's article. they do alot of these in spain and they usually are good reads but they to charge for them. i have only been able to see a couple samples here and there.
Anything remotely Xs and Os made it into the excerpts. There's a lot of blah-blah. To be fair to Dome, the interviewer kept circling back to the schedule. And artificial turf.
 
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Atlanta is interviewing Frank de Boer today.

So the next time someone tells me to get off my high horse about ambition, just remember that we received a regift for a manager, while the best club in the league (Continent) went out and tried to hire the former manager of Ajax.
 
Atlanta is interviewing Frank de Boer today.

So the next time someone tells me to get off my high horse about ambition, just remember that we received a regift for a manager, while the best club in the league (Continent) went out and tried to hire the former manager of Ajax.

so now everyone is off the Schelotto bus?

EDIT: best club in continent? lmao...league yes though
 
Atlanta is interviewing Frank de Boer today.

So the next time someone tells me to get off my high horse about ambition, just remember that we received a regift for a manager, while the best club in the league (Continent) went out and tried to hire the former manager of Ajax.

Fun fact about Frank de Boer: when Inter fired him after just 11 league games, they were 13th on the table but 5th in expected points. He tweeted, "It's a shame it ended this way. To carry out this project I needed more time." Wonder if he might have been onto something there.
 
Atlanta is interviewing Frank de Boer today.

So the next time someone tells me to get off my high horse about ambition, just remember that we received a regift for a manager, while the best club in the league (Continent) went out and tried to hire the former manager of Ajax.

Atlanta goes after Frank de Boer: Wow such continental very ambition

CFG goes after Frank de Boer*: Frank de Boer is an UNEMPLOYED FREE AGENT with a TRACK RECORD OF FAILURE and I want my SEASON TICKET MONEY BACK

* Yes I know they haven't actually done this...as far as I know
 
Someone on here maybe can teach me how to search but de Boer is one of the guys I wanted.

That's great, but I don't think it would have made us the envy of North American soccer if we had interviewed him. There are apparently no shortage of opportunities to fawn over Atlanta, or to lay into CFG (sometimes you can do both at the same time!) But I don't think Frank de Boer is the hill you want to die on.