Domènec Torrent Appointed NYCFC Head Coach (June '18) / Mutually Agree to Part Ways (November '19)

What Are Your Thoughts on Torrent as NYCFC Head Coach?

  • Quite Really Pleased

    Votes: 8 20.5%
  • Really Pleased

    Votes: 13 33.3%
  • Pleased

    Votes: 16 41.0%
  • Neither Pleased or Displeased

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Displeased

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Really Displeased

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Quite Really Displeased

    Votes: 1 2.6%

  • Total voters
    39
I'm surprised this hasn't been brought up yet, but it's pretty shitty to say publicly about how Heber was the 9th option and all the context around that. I'm sure Heber understands that the club was likely to also pursue other strikers before him, and I'm sure he feels validated with the production he brought here, but it still sounds like Dome didn't want him all that much and is still pretty salty about it. Can't be great for relations between Dome and Heber I would imagine.
 
I'm surprised this hasn't been brought up yet, but it's pretty shitty to say publicly about how Heber was the 9th option and all the context around that. I'm sure Heber understands that the club was likely to also pursue other strikers before him, and I'm sure he feels validated with the production he brought here, but it still sounds like Dome didn't want him all that much and is still pretty salty about it. Can't be great for relations between Dome and Heber I would imagine.
I am happy with Dome's results (until last week) and I still prefer he stay. But I am extremely unimpressed with his tendencies to snap at reporters, to whine about travel, and the schedule, and roster restrictions (all blame shifting tactics), throwing Claudio and/or CFG under the bus, and yes, downgrading Heber (while simultaneously hinting we could have won the Shield if Heber arrived sooner).
Brian Schmetzer just made it to MLS cup 3 years out of 4 years and his highest paid player is Lodeiro at $2.5 million. NYCFC had Villa at $6M for 4 years and 3 coaches couldn't get past the conference semi-finals. Drop the damn excuses Dome.
 
I am happy with Dome's results (until last week) and I still prefer he stay. But I am extremely unimpressed with his tendencies to snap at reporters, to whine about travel, and the schedule, and roster restrictions (all blame shifting tactics), throwing Claudio and/or CFG under the bus, and yes, downgrading Heber (while simultaneously hinting we could have won the Shield if Heber arrived sooner).
Brian Schmetzer just made it to MLS cup 3 years out of 4 years and his highest paid player is Lodeiro at $2.5 million. NYCFC had Villa at $6M for 4 years and 3 coaches couldn't get past the conference semi-finals. Drop the damn excuses Dome.

who did he snap at this time? all the stuff that came in the spanish interview was more venting but was not snapping or being angry at anyone. the travel and schedule are valid points but to his credit he has said many times this year "it is what it is and you have to adjust". i think he has done best hes can in regular season, even if we took some bad losses.

throwing claudio/cfg under the bus is something that is true but not something that needs to be said publicly- i think this is why he may be let go. but its still valid, watch next season we wont be complete till like early april again because cfg took forever finding a player.

Brian Schmetzer was in the sounders system as assistant since its inception its much easier to transition and be ready to be the manager when you know the system and good chunk of the players. something that wont ever happen with us as CFG likes to flip managers after a year and a half or two. you can make it up with spending but thats not CFG's style with transfers.
 
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I'm surprised this hasn't been brought up yet, but it's pretty shitty to say publicly about how Heber was the 9th option and all the context around that. I'm sure Heber understands that the club was likely to also pursue other strikers before him, and I'm sure he feels validated with the production he brought here, but it still sounds like Dome didn't want him all that much and is still pretty salty about it. Can't be great for relations between Dome and Heber I would imagine.
It’s really bad optics and does not respect Heber’s HR element & privacy. Corporations fire employees for divulging operations & HR/privacy issues.

That said, while he doesn’t want it put into the interweb, Heber may not take offense at being #9 because wasn’t he supposed to go to the Far East, or some other league, and the opportunity fell through? If he had been available all along, perhaps he would have been higher on the pecking order, but per the circumstances of a pending move that NYCFC couldn’t compete with, the club ignored him until he was open. If I have that all straight, then Heber seems like a self-aware person and that his selection was about timing.
 
It’s really bad optics and does not respect Heber’s HR element & privacy. Corporations fire employees for divulging operations & HR/privacy issues.

That said, while he doesn’t want it put into the interweb, Heber may not take offense at being #9 because wasn’t he supposed to go to the Far East, or some other league, and the opportunity fell through? If he had been available all along, perhaps he would have been higher on the pecking order, but per the circumstances of a pending move that NYCFC couldn’t compete with, the club ignored him until he was open. If I have that all straight, then Heber seems like a self-aware person and that his selection was about timing.
Yeah, and to be honest, out of all the people to handle comments like Dome made, Heber is probably one most able to brush it off with just how damn happy the guy is all the time. But even still, just a shitty thing to say so publicly with complete disregard for how it may affect Heber's feelings.
 
So like when Christian Pulisic is ready to play in MLS after leading the US to victory in the 2026 World Cup?
No, they’d spend 6 weeks trying to get him in on a TAM contract before moving on.
 
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I'm surprised this hasn't been brought up yet, but it's pretty shitty to say publicly about how Heber was the 9th option and all the context around that. I'm sure Heber understands that the club was likely to also pursue other strikers before him, and I'm sure he feels validated with the production he brought here, but it still sounds like Dome didn't want him all that much and is still pretty salty about it. Can't be great for relations between Dome and Heber I would imagine.

I interpreted it not as 9th-best option, but 9th-attempted option, which are subtly different. Each time they lost out on their initial top 2-3 options, they may have cast a wider and wider net, eventually hitting on Heber. It's possible there were cheaper and inferior players in the first group of 8.

It's also possible his top 5-6 were insanely optimistic, like:

1. Mertens
2. Girourd
3. Suarez
4. etc.
 

"The same sources said that he has drawn interest from a number of other MLS clubs and could choose to remain in North America. "

What the what!!
 
I can't see how NYC releases him from his contract a year early to allow him to join another MLS club. Not unless we get mad Garber bucks.

where would he go though in MLS? he doesnt like that we didnt spend and teams that have opening arent really big spenders ( of the top of my head) and the likes of lAFC and ATL, TFC are not letting go of their managers
 
I can't imagine he is leaving NYCFC to go to another MLS club or to the middle east. He doesn't like MLS - and if he can't at least live in NYC and go to jazz clubs and do other things he loves, then there isn't another city that will cut it for him. And the middle east??? forget it.
 
Maybe Orlando was asking about him? Or even Inter Miami? Is Chicago going to hire a new manager?

Also, how does a front office with this many red flags still manage to win the East without overspending? I'm so confused all the time. The cognitive dissonance gives me a headache.
 
Also, this is an interesting exercise for the idea that Dome is leaving because NYCFC do not spend enough or properly acquire talent. I cannot think of one team that arguably is more aggressive in stocking the roster with talent who would be in the market for a new coach, unless somebody quits unexpectedly. Taking a very broad definition of teams who arguably spend more and/or are better than getting talent than NYCFC I come up with

Atlanta
Toronto
LAFC
LAG
Seattle
Portland

I don't see any of them dumping their current coach, not even for Torrent. Maybe Inter Miami? DC United? (kind of a stretch to say their roster construction is better than NYC).

ETA: Fantazma Fantazma was on the same track as me while I was putting my list together.
 
Maybe Orlando was asking about him? Or even Inter Miami? Is Chicago going to hire a new manager?

Also, how does a front office with this many red flags still manage to win the East without overspending? I'm so confused all the time. The cognitive dissonance gives me a headache.

Dome aired out that dirty laundry publicly and now well see if the FO reacts or no.