Domènec Torrent Appointed NYCFC Head Coach (June '18) / Mutually Agree to Part Ways (November '19)

adam said:

Interesting that it's Marty making the statements and not Brad or Claudio.

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Yup, I caught that, too.

Also funny that this news has been out there for so long, and the team could have announced it this morning or even probably yesterday, if not sooner.

But they choose to make the Friday afternoon news dump. As ever, 1990's public relations in a 2020 world.

adam said:

I hope the new guy will continue with Dome's tactics at the start till there's more time to implement his own.

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Doubtful. The earlier in the season he starts, the more he'll want to implement his own system.

I just noticed Dome took a lot of his staff with him too.

adam said:

MY NEW YORK JETS!!!!! Bill Parcells, then Bill Bellichek. Didn't even take 2 years! More like 2 minutes!!

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Oh gosh yes. Though I see how I missed it as I assumed the second guy would actually, you know, coach a game at least. That was a fiasco all around.

ZYanksRule said:

Yup, I caught that, too.

Also funny that this news has been out there for so long, and the team could have announced it this morning or even probably yesterday, if not sooner.

But they choose to make the Friday afternoon news dump. As ever, 1990's public relations in a 2020 world.

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they just got back from their vacation.

Announce Gio on Monday so we have one less thing to worry about but with the club's track record, we'll see when they feel lune announcing it.

adam said:

Interesting that it's Marty making the statements and not Brad or Claudio.

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Came here to post this. Coupled with the tweet about considering multiple candidates, and Twellman's mention that Reyna wants to be back but "CFG may have other ideas," and they might be seriously considering a major shakeup.

I strongly disagree with the statement that this is the right time, lol. First in the East and our first champions league game looming is not the time for a shakeup, desired or not.

Fantazma said:

lol what? liga mx teams do this all the time.

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Coaches routinely quit that often? Not fired but quit when getting paid? I'm not disputing you -- you certainly know way more about Liga MX than I do -- just confirming we 're talking about the same thing. If so, I find that interesting. I presume they leave under similar circumstances, after some success and resume improvement to go to a bigger league?

adam said:

Interesting that it's Marty making the statements and not Brad or Claudio.

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Brad’s too busy listening to make statements

mgarbowski said:

I think I asked this before: can anybody name a solvent top league team in any sport who had 2 head coaches/managers quit in consecutive years? I imagine it probably has happened before but I cannot think of any.

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The Toe said:

might be a hot take, but I really don't blame the FO for this.

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I was never a fan of Dome, but I have a serious issue with this and how it’s being handled.... WTF is this “by mutual agreement” BS?!? The guy had a contract, he went public with grievances, that right there is a “for cause” reason to terminate him. Have a backbone and say it, otherwise it sets a horrible precedent that now two managers in a row have quit the team, before their contracts expired, essentially dictating the timing with zero repercussions and zero buy-out clauses.

It just doesn’t make any sense how easy they were both allowed to leave, but Mix was warehoused in the doghouse. If similar punishment was being levied, I’d think CFG would have made an example of Dome for going public by keeping him on the payroll while making it clear his career was going to stagnate by having his role in the managerial starting lineup replaced while he’s benched in the backroom.

Again, I have no issue with him being gone, but either fire him or hold him to his contract while making an example with punishment, but the optics of mutually parting ways is really poor when it’s common knowledge he stepped over the line. For a company that professes synergy and continuity and iron-clad rules, they really have an amazing track record of treating everybody differently.

sbrylski said:

Came here to post this. Coupled with the tweet about considering multiple candidates, and Twellman's mention that Reyna wants to be back but "CFG may have other ideas," and they might be seriously considering a major shakeup.

I strongly disagree with the statement that this is the right time, lol. First in the East and our first champions league game looming is not the time for a shakeup, desired or not.

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I noticed that too, but Edelman also spoke for the team when Vieira left and there was no statement from Reyna.


The difference with respect to Reyna is Vieira's statement gave the necessary courtesy thanks to Reyna by name while Torrent's just thanks the Sporting Department generally. Whether that means anything, and if so whether it means Torrent refused to do so or upper management did not want it, requires a level of Kremlinology I won't pretend to possess.

canchon said:

Brad’s too busy listening to make statements

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A good CEO should be not seen and not heard

i am just concerned about our 2020 season + CCL. No stadium + a bad season = NO FUN FOR ME.

There aren't enough tables in the world for me to flip.

adam said:

MY NEW YORK JETS!!!!! Bill Parcells, then Bill Bellichek. Didn't even take 2 years! More like 2 minutes!!

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Parcells retired when he left he jets, only to unreture 4 years later. That’s a bit different than quitting mid season to take another job.

Ulrich said:

Parcells retired when he left he jets, only to unreture 4 years later. That’s a bit different than quitting mid season to take another job.

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Maybe you missed the emoji at the end of the comment. SOC. Same Old City. NYCFC. Now You Can Fucking Cry.

sbrylski said:

I strongly disagree with the statement that this is the right time, lol. First in the East and our first champions league game looming is not the time for a shakeup, desired or not.

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Exactly.

adam said:

Maybe you missed the emoji at the end of the comment. SOC. Same Old City. NYCFC. Now You Can Fucking Cry.

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Unfortunately the futility of the jets is never lost on me. I just don’t blame Parcells for leaving - he got out as a winning coach and thought he was leaving the org in good hands only to find out the fcker backstabbed everybody with his immediate resignation.

adam said:

Interesting that it's Marty making the statements and not Brad or Claudio.

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Came here tonpost the same.

Ulrich said:

Parcells retired when he left he jets, only to unreture 4 years later. That’s a bit different than quitting mid season to take another job.

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adam said:

Maybe you missed the emoji at the end of the comment. SOC. Same Old City. NYCFC. Now You Can Fucking Cry.

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I wasn't looking for a perfect analogue -- just 2 coaches quitting in consecutive years, so Adam is correct. But Adam's post pushed me to look that incident up and it's even better/worse. After Belichick quit after 1 day, Parcells -- who stayed on as GM -- hired All Groh, who then quit 1 year later. So the Jets had 3 coaches quit in 2 consecutive years, and as usual, the Jets win the organizational clown show sweepstakes!

Why wouldn’t CFG want Reyna back? Most points over last 3 years, no? He didn’t coach the playoff games, did he?

moogoo said:

Doubtful. The earlier in the season he starts, the more he'll want to implement his own system.

I just noticed Dome took a lot of his staff with him too.

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I see no problem with Dome taking his staff with him on an off-season. Vieira took them mid-season which was dick-ish, but on the off-season, that makes sense.