2021 Schedule Thread

Of the 17 MLS Regular Season matches in 2021, how many will be played at Yankee Stadium?


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i genuinely think fans and even the supporter groups (e.g., 3rd rail, etc) would have reacted better had the club come out with this information as soon as they found out about what MLS's scheduling was going to be like for 2021. Obviously, they couldn't make their arrangements with RBA or any other venue without knowing that first. Now, if they were prohibited by MLS to give any hints to the schedule then ok. But then just say so and mention that RBA would be considered as a venue for home games in 2021. The point is, they should have been more forthcoming with the situation and their choices, even if they weren't able to give us fans an actual choice, being transparent shows a lot of good will. Having an actual plan for refunds, credits, etc based on these circumstances would be nice too. I am willing to bet the fine print in the pay it forward into 2021 agreement has something about venue changes and that refunds would not be given.

I am assuming when 2022 rolls around, covid will be under control enough that MLS can go back to scheduling like they did before and we'll have to deal with a YS/Citi split. Although supporters will be unhappy with the split, at least it's in NYC. The only thing that will make fans forget and garner renewed support is a stadium deal announcement with a timeline for construction to begin.
 
I couldn't care less at this point where this club plays. In fact, why not play more matches at RBA? I dropped my season tickets and hate watching the home matches at YS. The camera angles suck and you can't see half the field on the broadcast. Might as well just rip the band-aid off this season when attendance will be limited.

And when COVID ends and fans can come back, it'll look a heck of a lot better getting 10,000 fans into RBA than 10,000 fans at Yankee Stadium.
 
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i genuinely think fans and even the supporter groups (e.g., 3rd rail, etc) would have reacted better had the club come out with this information as soon as they found out about what MLS's scheduling was going to be like for 2021. Obviously, they couldn't make their arrangements with RBA or any other venue without knowing that first. Now, if they were prohibited by MLS to give any hints to the schedule then ok. But then just say so and mention that RBA would be considered as a venue for home games in 2021. The point is, they should have been more forthcoming with the situation and their choices, even if they weren't able to give us fans an actual choice, being transparent shows a lot of good will. Having an actual plan for refunds, credits, etc based on these circumstances would be nice too. I am willing to bet the fine print in the pay it forward into 2021 agreement has something about venue changes and that refunds would not be given.

I am assuming when 2022 rolls around, covid will be under control enough that MLS can go back to scheduling like they did before and we'll have to deal with a YS/Citi split. Although supporters will be unhappy with the split, at least it's in NYC. The only thing that will make fans forget and garner renewed support is a stadium deal announcement with a timeline for construction to begin.

Well, MLS is always quirky with scheduling because playing through the summer conflicts with other tournaments like the Gold Cup so MLS takes 2 weeks off at some point in the summer. Next year with the World Cup taking place in the winter (first match on November 21 and likely players being called into camps one month prior), the MLS Cup playoffs are going to be interesting.
 
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i genuinely think fans and even the supporter groups (e.g., 3rd rail, etc) would have reacted better had the club come out with this information as soon as they found out about what MLS's scheduling was going to be like for 2021. Obviously, they couldn't make their arrangements with RBA or any other venue without knowing that first. Now, if they were prohibited by MLS to give any hints to the schedule then ok. But then just say so and mention that RBA would be considered as a venue for home games in 2021. The point is, they should have been more forthcoming with the situation and their choices, even if they weren't able to give us fans an actual choice, being transparent shows a lot of good will. Having an actual plan for refunds, credits, etc based on these circumstances would be nice too. I am willing to bet the fine print in the pay it forward into 2021 agreement has something about venue changes and that refunds would not be given.

I am assuming when 2022 rolls around, covid will be under control enough that MLS can go back to scheduling like they did before and we'll have to deal with a YS/Citi split. Although supporters will be unhappy with the split, at least it's in NYC. The only thing that will make fans forget and garner renewed support is a stadium deal announcement with a timeline for construction to begin.

It all comes back to transparency.
 
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It all comes back to transparency.

You know what it comes back to? $$

The club is going to continue to shit on supporters because supporters happily or begrudgingly give their money to the club. Fans justify it by saying they love the players or want their name on a brick. But in the end, the club is just going to continue with their lack of transparency.
 
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Well, MLS is always quirky with scheduling because playing through the summer conflicts with other tournaments like the Gold Cup so MLS takes 2 weeks off at some point in the summer. Next year with the World Cup taking place in the winter (first match on November 21 and likely players being called into camps one month prior), the MLS Cup playoffs are going to be interesting.

will be interesting if more national teams follow the norwegians and boycott Qatar completely. i personally don't think it will happen.. but would be something if it does...
 
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I couldn't care less at this point where this club plays. In fact, why not play more matches at RBA? I dropped my season tickets and hate watching the home matches at YS. The camera angles suck and you can't see half the field on the broadcast. Might as well just rip the band-aid off this season when attendance will be limited.

And when COVID ends and fans can come back, it'll look a heck of a lot better getting 10,000 fans into RBA than 10,000 fans at Yankee Stadium.

the problem is that i dont even think 10K make it out to RBA in pre covid times, much less now.

You know what it comes back to? $$

The club is going to continue to shit on supporters because supporters happily or begrudgingly give their money to the club. Fans justify it by saying they love the players or want their name on a brick. But in the end, the club is just going to continue with their lack of transparency.

while they are shitting on fans, that number has dropped considerably since year 1. what ever is left is not much im sure.
 
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I couldn't care less at this point where this club plays. In fact, why not play more matches at RBA? I dropped my season tickets and hate watching the home matches at YS. The camera angles suck and you can't see half the field on the broadcast. Might as well just rip the band-aid off this season when attendance will be limited.

And when COVID ends and fans can come back, it'll look a heck of a lot better getting 10,000 fans into RBA than 10,000 fans at Yankee Stadium.


I think we draw less than 5,000 at RBA. We’ll see
 
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I couldn't care less at this point where this club plays. In fact, why not play more matches at RBA? I dropped my season tickets and hate watching the home matches at YS. The camera angles suck and you can't see half the field on the broadcast. Might as well just rip the band-aid off this season when attendance will be limited.

And when COVID ends and fans can come back, it'll look a heck of a lot better getting 10,000 fans into RBA than 10,000 fans at Yankee Stadium.

Never!! We are a NYC club.
 
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The club's biggest problem is that they keep making the same mistakes over and over again and have no read on the fanbase. Most often it's their failure to "get out ahead of this" where they could have been more forthcoming and eased/explained the blow soon to be delivered. Instead it's the same pattern of suggesting that they care (for example, a survey asking supporters whether they would travel to RBA), ignoring the feedback from the fanbase (for example, ignoring the likely results of the RBA survey), failing to explain an unpopular club decision in advance or contemporaneously (for example, failing to explain in advance why the club is playing half of its home games at RBA, failing to provide information on how this will affect STH, and what options will be available), delivering the bad news without warning (for example, releasing a schedule with half of the home games at RBA), causing anger, disappointment, and further mistrust from the fanbase and accompanying bad publicity (for example, all of the foregoing this week following the schedule release), and then having to react in a manner that is too little, too late (for example, fan services sending a couple of tweets at the angry fanbase). Repeat. And repeat again. Being proactive won't necessarily solve some of the disappointment, but it would certainly help in many ways including the trust factor, allowing supporters to understand or at least process certain decisions in a reasonable manner, quell unnecessary protests and social media reaction, etc.
 
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You have to separate the practical from the emotional reasons why this is bad.

When the Yankees played at Shea, I as a Yankee fan didn't care aboout the symbolism because, as has been noted, I knew it was temporary while YS was getting a needed renovation. But as a young teen living in Yonkers, I could get to YS in 30-45 minutes and Shea took 90-120. I went to almost no games those 2 years as a result. Which was fine because I had not prepaid for a slate of tickets more than 12 months previously only to have the relocation announced a month before the season started.

Symbolism aside, unless you live in a few Manhattan neighborhoods, getting home from RBA late night or on weekends sucks. People have season tickets they paid for more than a year ago and are just finding out they've been committed to making that trip regularly with no info about refunds, credits or anything. How will allocations work when 90% of STHs ask for every YS game and 0 RBA games? There's still no info available. Put aside NY/NJ symbolism, that sucks.

WRT the symbolism, I have always been an outlier in that I find the whole NY/NJ thing WAY overdone. BUT, it matters to a lot of people, the club and league have known this from before the expansion announcement, and marketed on that basis. Add in the club history of deception and poor communication: Lampard, ending paper tickets, the 2019 playoff Citi Field seat assignment nonsense, the 2020 Citi Field seat assignment repeat nonsense. I can't even keep track, but there were more, and with every one you have speculation, denials, a last minute announcement that confirms the speculation and renders all prior statements outright lies, accompanied by no apology and if there's any explanation it is of the "what did you expect, you were fools for believing us" variety. Add in the never ending stadium saga, which we barely even talk about any more we've gotten bored with it, and yes, there are fair excuses but again, they sold something different. The whole Founding Member wall promise is a bad joke. The idea that anyone reasonably believed that to make the Wall you could maintain tickets for six years and not even have a site announcement on the horizon is absurd. In retrospect, the 2018 focus groups were just an expensive dog and pony show to make people think something was imminent when clearly it was not.

People are understandably frustrated. How will the club handle scheduling and multiple stadiums once the pandemic ends? There's no reason to expect anything good. NYCFC might handle it well, but there's no excess, reserve goodwill left to make people want to give them the benefit of the doubt. And as always you have 3 choices, walk away completely, remain a fan but with decreased engagement and/or spend, or suck it up. And both options 2 and 3 just keep punching you in the face.
I agree 100%. This is horseshit, but (to me) not because of who else plays at RBA.
 
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The club's biggest problem is that they keep making the same mistakes over and over again and have no read on the fanbase. Most often it's their failure to "get out ahead of this" where they could have been more forthcoming and eased/explained the blow soon to be delivered. Instead it's the same pattern of suggesting that they care (for example, a survey asking supporters whether they would travel to RBA), ignoring the feedback from the fanbase (for example, ignoring the likely results of the RBA survey), failing to explain an unpopular club decision in advance or contemporaneously (for example, failing to explain in advance why the club is playing half of its home games at RBA, failing to provide information on how this will affect STH, and what options will be available), delivering the bad news without warning (for example, releasing a schedule with half of the home games at RBA), causing anger, disappointment, and further mistrust from the fanbase and accompanying bad publicity (for example, all of the foregoing this week following the schedule release), and then having to react in a manner that is too little, too late (for example, fan services sending a couple of tweets at the angry fanbase). Repeat. And repeat again. Being proactive won't necessarily solve some of the disappointment, but it would certainly help in many ways including the trust factor, allowing supporters to understand or at least process certain decisions in a reasonable manner, quell unnecessary protests and social media reaction, etc.
They're just not very good at this. I think a symptom of a front office full of people who are more concerned about their next job than their current one.
 
What the hell? They already have my money. What’s this “we won’t take your money” crap. They’ve had my money