Stadium Discussion
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Jason Davies just mentioned the rumor with the source coming from... NYCFCForums. 
That’s awesomeJason Davies just mentioned the rumor with the source coming from... NYCFCForums.
I am a construction material supplier and I can tell you that there although there is some smoke here , there is nothing that is a done deal. I believe I know where this rumor started and it was in relation to a cost estimation , not a finalized deal. my company has been approached by several engineers, developers etc. I would say a deal is close but far from done and the team is getting bids and prices in order to formalize a proposal. Sorry to be to a buzz kill, but we aren't as close as it would seem. The deal could happen but the specs given are not finalized and most likely part of a bid package to bring forth to investors, city council etc.
Is this Glenn Crooks burner account?
I can fully appreciate what your presenting, but if you’re with a supplier, then your contract wouldn’t be set until after the Prime Contractor/Developer/Engineering Company signed their Design/Build contract with the client. They first win the job, and then they go through their 3+ bids per sub-contracting trade/supplier (I’m assuming this is your company’s role) and buy their contract per typically lowest bid.
So the Prime would be retained well before any subs, so anything that trickles down to you is newer than what the general public knows but could still be behind the times as far as the major stakeholders.
That said, fully appreciate your two-cents on the rumor. All info is welcomed!
Edit: I also suspect that this stadium project will be executed as a “Fast-track” project with the big picture known now and the little details worked out during construction, so the specifications wouldn’t be complete at this time.
Damnit, emojis don’t come through huh. Meant to be two hands clapping for ‘bravo’ well said.
I don't think that's necessarily always the case.
Most of my clients that bid on government projects do so with their subs already lined up and built into their proposals. Now, perhaps it varies based on the type of project, most of what my clients work on are pursuing federal dollars, but if they're proposing on something and sub-contractors need to be involved, they are almost always lined up beforehand.
I can guarantee that what I stated is industry norm, including Federal work. Prime signs contract with client, Prime then selects sub-contractors from multiple bids. If client requests specific sub, that’s a given for every bidding Prime.
There could be teams put together as a combined Prime, where it’s a specific Civil Engineering/Contracting Company partnered with a specific Electrical Engineering/Contracting company partnered with etc etc, but the subs that they hire for the labor are definitely not selected at the beginning. Companies that combine as the labor can’t just wait around for the job to start, they take work as it comes, and there’s no guarantee the Prime they put a proposal forth to will win the job. Timing may work out, often it doesn’t, hence the contract is signed immediately prior to mobilization.
Edit: and I’m not dismissing what you’re saying, as there are exceptions to everything, but this is a subject I’m pretty confident in.
I don't know anything at all about this topic, but here's where I think you're all getting this wrong:
So what do we know then?
Nycfc has requested bids from builders? That seems significant, no?
Nycfc has requested bids from builders? That seems significant, no?
That would seem to be the working hypothesis.
It may just be that I’m looking at this on my phone, and it’s not showing, but was there anything in your post that came after the “wrong:” ???
The poster with the rumor felt the need to remove his/her posts.
This is one of the first times ever a rumor took off and went viral.
This is one of the first times ever a rumor took off and went viral.
The removal may be the best evidence we have that the content is (was) legitimate.
I get the sense that maybe a lot of the bureaucratic shit is coming to an end and the inevitability of the project is taking shape. At least, possibly, with land acquisition. Anything having to do with transit will likely end up being the final hurdle to all this. But if they have an internal timeline of "we're expecting 18 months until we can finally resolve all of it", I hope they're just making sure the ducks are in a row to make sure everything is set and can proceed ASAP.
