Away - March 1 - Columbus (Postmatch)

I remember a stretch towards the end of the season where NYCFC had several games where opposing players got red carded (Colorado, NE, SJ?) which did help them take max points and propel them up the table.

Eventually was bound to go the other way, just sucks that it was in the third minute and effectively ended the game. Expecting your team to get a result after they are down for 87 minutes is asking too much in a league where teams are this evenly matched.
I believe that we got 13 points from 5 games where the opponent played with 10 last season.
 
Anyone else pissed that Mata was *again* out of position when they scored their goal?

just watched the replay again. not sure how you mean he was out of position? it was a clean through ball and velarayan was quick to turn Ring and get the shot off. could mata have possibly stuck a foot out to block the pass and maybe tried a bit harder to make a tackle before the shot? sure. but no doubt he was tired as was everyone at that point. it was coming and this particular goal wasn't a direct result of his play. mitri could have tracked back to put pressure on afful before he made the pass. lots of things could have happened, but i think at that point we were pretty tired and maybe switched off a bit.
 
just watched the replay again. not sure how you mean he was out of position? it was a clean through ball and velarayan was quick to turn Ring and get the shot off. could mata have possibly stuck a foot out to block the pass and maybe tried a bit harder to make a tackle before the shot? sure. but no doubt he was tired as was everyone at that point. it was coming and this particular goal wasn't a direct result of his play. mitri could have tracked back to put pressure on afful before he made the pass. lots of things could have happened, but i think at that point we were pretty tired and maybe switched off a bit.

He overcommitted trying to anticipate a pass and put himself out of position.
 
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And this play kind of reminds me of the New England game at home where the Revs had a player sent off for knocking down Taty as he was running onto a long pass. The situation was a little different, as there was a touch by the defender as Taty was running by. In last year's game, the red was awarded after video review, but PRO came back later and said it should not have been a red.



The Chanot challenge was checked but didn't go to a video review, so it won't be included in this YouTube segment.
 
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He overcommitted trying to anticipate a pass and put himself out of position.

i don't see that at all. there is a wide man to the right of afful, who mata would be tasked to put pressure on if afful were to pass to him. mata also needed to be wary of afful. if anything mitri should have pressured afful since he was just standing there maybe 8 yards away.

mata was in a perfectly fine position given his defensive responsibilities in that situation. there really isn't any way for him to deny the through ball for a runner he didn't know was coming (who was being tracked by Ring). maybe you're seeing something I'm not, but I don't see how mata was solely at fault for the goal.
 
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We also need to give Zelerayan some credit there. That was a great move he made on the goal.

of course. definitely can't take away anything from the move and the finish. he completely baited Ring in, made a quick turn, and picked his spot. Johnson had no chance. he's definitely a difference maker for the crew.

When I think about who we have on our squad that would have that kind of composure in that situation to pick a spot and slot it into the corner like that, heber is probably the only one .. maybe. perhaps taty or isi on a good day. but i feel like anybody else would have just kicked it right at johnson.
 
i don't see that at all. there is a wide man to the right of afful, who mata would be tasked to put pressure on if afful were to pass to him. mata also needed to be wary of afful. if anything mitri should have pressured afful since he was just standing there maybe 8 yards away.

mata was in a perfectly fine position given his defensive responsibilities in that situation. there really isn't any way for him to deny the through ball for a runner he didn't know was coming (who was being tracked by Ring). maybe you're seeing something I'm not, but I don't see how mata was solely at fault for the goal.
Don't want to zapruder film this but watched it again and he's out of position.

- He doesn't close Afful down quick enough.
- Afful fakes a pass
- Mata bites and allows Afful to cut to middle and he splits our D.

If Mata holds his ground, doesn't pull himself out of position by trying to stop the pass to the corner of the box, Afful can't cut in to the middle and split our backline.

Even if Mata challenges and Afful puts a pass behind him to the corner of the box, Callens was tracking, and a cross from that angle is far less dangerous than allowing a pass through the middle.
 
That red was such a pain. It was ruled correctly in my opinion as far as it literally was a denial of a goal scoring opportunity, but clearly it wasn't intentional. Chanot saw he was going to be beaten for pace with the guy on an inside track to goal so he was giving up on the ball to try and take a better position for when the striker has to eventually turned for goal, and in doing to lightly clips his ankle ruining the next 90 minutes of play.

Urgh. I mean I don't want intent to be added to the rule or you are going to see lots of defenders hunting for "accidental" collisions on the chance the ref manages the game leniently for the sake of the product. No one outside of CLB wants a red there. I'd even venture to say some in CLB wouldn't want a red there for the sake of the match's entertainment value.

So whats chanot to do? Give him a two step lead before cutting over? If that guy goes on to score pundits will rip chanot for poor defending.

Best thing he could have done there is run side by side till he gets to the box then just manhandle him as much as he thinks he could get away with. If he score he score, but if you defend him you are a hero, and if you give the PK at least you have a full squad for a full 90 to respond. Way way way to early in the game to have a red come out. I mean unless you think getting a 0-0 draw was the more likely outcome then trying to come back 1-0 on the road. For me I would take the latter. This is probably a teachable moment for the squad. Early PK not the end of the world, early red less so. IMO.
 
Don't want to zapruder film this but watched it again and he's out of position.

- He doesn't close Afful down quick enough.
- Afful fakes a pass
- Mata bites and allows Afful to cut to middle and he splits our D.

If Mata holds his ground, doesn't pull himself out of position by trying to stop the pass to the corner of the box, Afful can't cut in to the middle and split our backline.

Even if Mata challenges and Afful puts a pass behind him to the corner of the box, Callens was tracking, and a cross from that angle is far less dangerous than allowing a pass through the middle.
In fairness to Mata, every time he sees Aful in the box he has a panic attack.
 

Matt Doyle makes a note of that play in his short recap of the game.

" If you're not going to get any pressure to Harrison Afful, he's going to pick the right pass and hurt you."
Aful is his kryptonite. He’s in his head. He’s owned him going back to the 2017 playoff match.
 
That red was such a pain. It was ruled correctly in my opinion as far as it literally was a denial of a goal scoring opportunity, but clearly it wasn't intentional. Chanot saw he was going to be beaten for pace with the guy on an inside track to goal so he was giving up on the ball to try and take a better position for when the striker has to eventually turned for goal, and in doing to lightly clips his ankle ruining the next 90 minutes of play.

Urgh. I mean I don't want intent to be added to the rule or you are going to see lots of defenders hunting for "accidental" collisions on the chance the ref manages the game leniently for the sake of the product. No one outside of CLB wants a red there. I'd even venture to say some in CLB wouldn't want a red there for the sake of the match's entertainment value.

So whats chanot to do? Give him a two step lead before cutting over? If that guy goes on to score pundits will rip chanot for poor defending.

Best thing he could have done there is run side by side till he gets to the box then just manhandle him as much as he thinks he could get away with. If he score he score, but if you defend him you are a hero, and if you give the PK at least you have a full squad for a full 90 to respond. Way way way to early in the game to have a red come out. I mean unless you think getting a 0-0 draw was the more likely outcome then trying to come back 1-0 on the road. For me I would take the latter. This is probably a teachable moment for the squad. Early PK not the end of the world, early red less so. IMO.
I still sincerely doubt that Chanot clipped his legs. The replay shows that he trips on his own feet.
 
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I still sincerely doubt that Chanot clipped his legs. The replay shows that he trips on his own feet.
You are seeing one angle with bad depth - You can also see that the reason he trips on his own feet is a slight touch beforehand which throws off his feet.
...Or can you see that? I'm not sure, we only have one angle.


Ever since I saw this, I have a newfound understanding of how important more than one angle can be.
 
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We also need to give Zelerayan some credit there. That was a great move he made on the goal.

Sure, but it all started from Columbus Mitrita and gaining their attacking phase of play leading to the goal. VAR should have looked at it and overturned it.