http://www.mcfcwatch.com/2017/06/24...announce-the-purchase-la-liga-club-girona-fc/
Does this have an impact on the pecking order of who gets Man City loanees?
Does this have an impact on the pecking order of who gets Man City loanees?
CFG Set to Announce Purchase of La Liga Club Girona FC
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To answer your question in the most straightforward manner possible, yes it knocks us down in the CFG pecking order for the time being. Their budget is 50mm all included ours is only about 20mm on players.
That said our demotion in importance is likely a temporary affair from a budgetary perspective as Girona FC averages about 5k people a game with much cheaper tickets. Even if you give them another 5k in attendance for jumping to la liga from the Spanish second division NYCFC is comparatively raking in the match day money. The fact that Girona has a 50mm budget is entirely due to media rights. Give it 10 to 20 years and we're probably more important than a developmental la liga club. But thats basically due to the growth potential of the sport in the US vs the maxed out nature of the sport in Spain.
Now addressing the part of who gets ManCity loanees, I don't think Girona FC is actually going to have much of an impact on us for the time being. Basically people who would go to Girona would not be supposed to come to NYCFC in the first place, the level of league play is too different, even accounting for the fact that la Liga is basically a completely different beast once you get past Real Madrid and Barcelona. I assume that sometimes players like Yangel Herrera might graduate up to Girona FC, but remember at the end of the day La Liga is a top 5 league and MLS is not. NYCFC is basically fulfilling the role of the Belgian league or maybe the Dutch league for the integrated CFG soccer player developmental system.
Just on a salary basis every player that suits up for Girona would qualify as a DP in the US. So I really don't see any overlap right now or in the next 4 years. After the MLS media rights contracts are renegotiated NYCFC might have something approaching the level of play that would cause some friction between Girona FC and us but I really kind of doubt it. So in the short term I foresee no conflict between us and Girona for players, in the medium term there will be some conflict between us and Girona as NYCFC and MLS in general grow rapidly, and long term NYCFC will likely surpass Girona and claw back its position as CFG's #2 soccer team. In the super long term NYCFC could possibly surpass ManCity as the #1 team, but that dream is fundamentally dependent on how popular soccer becomes in the US and how good the US professional player talent pool becomes.
Not good for us. Not good for the sport maybe. And it looks like this is part of the reason Pep joined Man City, which bothers me.
Just another reason to be skeptical of the long term commitment of the club. No stadium progress. No transfer budget. Lampard fiasco. Only signing players on frees.
Just another reason to be skeptical of the long term commitment of the club. No stadium progress. No transfer budget. Lampard fiasco. Only signing players on frees.
Totally agree. This now provides a landing spot for Hererra. Even on a bottom dweller, he'll be more interested with the few top teams he'd get to play twice a season.
That's the exact same first reaction I had.
Now, this is assuming that the Herrera deal really wasn't CFG skirting MLS rules. When you listen to Reyna talk about him, it sounds more and more like CFG purchased him for NYCFC to skirt MLS DP rules. The intention was always that he would spend 1-2 years here before being sold by CFG. He was never in Pep's plans.
But in the future, kids like Roberts and Herrera would never come here. They're headed to Spain.
Does Spain have any sort of strict employment rules? No country is as tight as England with eligibility, but even a slight set of hoops to jump through will help us.
This will have almost zero effect. Man City was already sending their loanees there now there just official partners. Nothing will change.
Any rebranding for Girona FC?
And what are the implications for Champions League qualifying? We know that if the same group owns two teams the better team in their respective league qualifies. Obviously it's going to be much harder in La Liga than Red Bull does in Austria. Still, something to consider.
And what are the implications for Champions League qualifying? We know that if the same group owns two teams the better team in their respective league qualifies. Obviously it's going to be much harder in La Liga than Red Bull does in Austria. Still, something to consider.
I can't see it. More like the other way around. The reason Pep joined Manchester City is because his two closest allies from his Barca days took over the club. From the day the joined (in 2012) it was inevitable he would come eventually. Many would argue that this connection is the only reason they were hired, and they might be right. The truly interesting thing will be what happens when Pep leaves MCFC, because all indications seem to be that Soriano, Txiki and a number of other administrators will follow him out, leaving the club's senior positions potentially virtually deserted.
It seems like CFG are increasingly turning towards the idea of buying players for the sole intention of selling them 2-3 years onwards, generally with a buy-back clause (something which frequently happens in Spain and particularly with Barca, go figure CFG's sudden interest). Additionally, MCFC are starting to get some real bumper crops coming through. My gut feeling is that there will always be top talents to be loaned to NYCFC. Let's not forget that the story a year ago was that PV simply didn't have much interest in loaning from CFG personally, and it wasn't a decision from CFG to cut off NYCFC.
I personally can't see Girona ever reaching the CL. FFP stops CFG from just cramming them with high-transfer players, and I feel like that was only ever something CFG planned on doing to start the project in Manchester anyway.
Anyway, funnily enough Red Bull seems to have set the precedent here. They appear to have convinced UEFA that they meet conditions to have two clubs in the CL, thus laying the groundworks for other groups to meet the conditions the same way.
I think Girona fans would be greatful if CFG improved their squad enough to make the Europea League, let alone Champions League.
I have to feel for Girona fans a bit. The club has been around since 1930 and has never played in the first division. They finally get promoted, and weeks later are purchased by a conglomerate and are likely to see a name change and a switch from red to light blue. I'm cautiously interested in them as a sister club now, but it's still a pretty sad turn of events for them. Yeah, it may help them actually stay in the first division, but it's costing them a large chunk of their soul.
gonna suck if they change the name of team and colors...but i guess it will happen.
its the trend now.....creating "networks" of clubs ...whether its CFG....RB....or owner buying multiple teams.
or you even have partnerships like chelsea does
Something in me thinks that CFG don't intend to "rebrand" Girona. Not based on any kind of info, just a gut feeling. I'd prefer it that way, honestly.
The Independent are claiming that CFG have told them they don't plan to buy Girona, although a more formal relationship is in the pipeline. Maybe a minority shareholding a la Yokohama F Marinos. Should put the stories of changing the club name and colours to bed.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...news-girona-city-football-group-a7811176.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...news-girona-city-football-group-a7811176.html
So my big question now is has final stay in decisions? Pep's bro and CFG have nearly 50% stakes with the supporters owning a small sliver as well. I don't know the club is organization but the supporters could have a lot of power if there is ever a falling out between the two groups.
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