College Admissions FBI Sting

the only reason these people are being dealt with (in my opinion) is because the government didnt get their cut. All these bribes were getting done through a charitable organization and then these people were claiming these huge charitable deductions on their tax returns. Meanwhile, they used the money to fraud their kids into college.

Disclaimer: No goods or services were received in return for this opinion
Actually, no.

The Feds were investigating someone for securities fraud when he tipped them off to the scheme in order to curry favor. They found the Yale Soccer Coach, flipped him to get to Singer, the mastermind, and used him to roll up everyone else. The origins had nothing to do with the tax fraud.
 
The notion that this would have been ignored had the perpetrators been paying taxes on the money is an absurdity.
I don’t know about that, anything is possible especially when having to allocate resources in a department budget. Per a friend that prosecuted for the military, many times prosecutors turn down cases that have a negative return if there are others more pressing and a finite amount of time/resources.

But this went farther than not paying taxing on the money - the fcking jokers were structuring their payments to the charity so as to take massive tax write off donations. So it wasn’t that these were non-taxed transactions that could be argued whether the govt should get a cut, they literally were taking money away *stealing* from the govt by jiggling their 1040 numbers to show they owed less.
 
The specific assertion was that this wouldn't have been prosecuted if it weren't for the fact that taxes weren't being paid. That is absurd, and it is contrary to publicly available facts.

This is, at heart, a bribery case, and bribery was the accusation first given to investigators and the one they acted upon.

Again, this is not my opinion. It is fact. Go read the Wall St. Journal report or any of the dozens you can find.
 
The specific assertion was that this wouldn't have been prosecuted if it weren't for the fact that taxes weren't being paid. That is absurd, and it is contrary to publicly available facts.

This is, at heart, a bribery case, and bribery was the accusation first given to investigators and the one they acted upon.

Again, this is not my opinion. It is fact. Go read the Wall St. Journal report or any of the dozens you can find.
For clarity, this is simply an opinion and i have made no "assertions" as you claim i have. In fact after i started out my post stating it was an opinion, i circled back at the end and made charitable donation joke that again reinstated that it was solely an opinion. An opinion which you are more than welcome to not agree with. Quite frankly im not sure why you're attacking me on it?
 
The specific assertion was that this wouldn't have been prosecuted if it weren't for the fact that taxes weren't being paid. That is absurd, and it is contrary to publicly available facts.

This is, at heart, a bribery case, and bribery was the accusation first given to investigators and the one they acted upon.

Again, this is not my opinion. It is fact. Go read the Wall St. Journal report or any of the dozens you can find.
Ummm, OK.

From the NBC article I posted:
The investigation involved more than 200 federal agents who fanned out across six states. The probe was launched last May after agents uncovered evidence of "large-scale fraud" while working on a separate undercover investigation, the FBI's Bonavolonta said.

Bribery is part of it, along with mail fraud, tax fraud, and a whole host of other charges I’m not going back to look for.

And whether it’s bribery or not, you’re missing the point that Kangaroo Jack Kangaroo Jack opined and that my friend who’s in the business also confirmed - not every case goes forward and there are definite reasons why certain ones get picked over others. Carry on.
 
For clarity, this is simply an opinion and i have made no "assertions" as you claim i have. In fact after i started out my post stating it was an opinion, i circled back at the end and made charitable donation joke that again reinstated that it was solely an opinion. An opinion which you are more than welcome to not agree with. Quite frankly im not sure why you're attacking me on it?
Okay, fair enough. Maybe I have been overzealous. I apologize.

When I read the first post, I had an opinion that you were wrong. I didn't write anything at that time because it was just an opinion. I then read a news article in the Wall St. Journal (excerpt below), which is when I came back, now that there are facts. Hopefully, this can kind of settle things.

I guess it is sensitive to me that accomplished professionals acting with integrity can be presumed to be craven and self interested. The prosecutors in this case are the former, without a doubt.



Federal authorities were pursuing a securities fraud case last spring when a person involved, a financial executive hoping for leniency, said he had information of great interest on another matter, according to people familiar with the investigation.

The executive told investigators that the head women’s soccer coach at Yale University had sought a bribe in return for getting his daughter admitted to the Ivy League school, a person familiar with the investigation said.

Authorities zeroed on the coach who began cooperating in what federal investigators said was the biggest college-admissions fraud ever prosecuted.​
 
Okay, fair enough. Maybe I have been overzealous. I apologize.

When I read the first post, I had an opinion that you were wrong. I didn't write anything at that time because it was just an opinion. I then read a news article in the Wall St. Journal (excerpt below), which is when I came back, now that there are facts. Hopefully, this can kind of settle things.

I guess it is sensitive to me that accomplished professionals acting with integrity can be presumed to be craven and self interested. The prosecutors in this case are the former, without a doubt.



Federal authorities were pursuing a securities fraud case last spring when a person involved, a financial executive hoping for leniency, said he had information of great interest on another matter, according to people familiar with the investigation.

The executive told investigators that the head women’s soccer coach at Yale University had sought a bribe in return for getting his daughter admitted to the Ivy League school, a person familiar with the investigation said.

Authorities zeroed on the coach who began cooperating in what federal investigators said was the biggest college-admissions fraud ever prosecuted.​
Probably splitting hairs, but while the coach sought a bribe, the next paragraph describes the case as fraud.

And being an accomplished professional does not shield from craven/self-serving actions - just look at the one high-powered lawyer implicated in this very case, or even our own NYC DA Cy Vance, Jr who didn’t prosecute the Trump wonder kids in 2017, after he received a campaign donation, even though the DA’s office had evidence of fraud.
 
Probably splitting hairs, but while the coach sought a bribe, the next paragraph describes the case as fraud.

And being an accomplished professional does not shield from craven/self-serving actions - just look at the one high-powered lawyer implicated in this very case, or even our own NYC DA Cy Vance, Jr who didn’t prosecute the Trump wonder kids in 2017, after he received a campaign donation, even though the DA’s office had evidence of fraud.
Certainly being a professional doesn't preclude craven self interest. I was making a narrower point that most professionals are actually pretty fair when it comes to executing their jobs. People take pride in their work and want to get it right and usually are not corrupted by narrow self interest, political beliefs and the like. I would bet that the prosecutors in this case, and their bosses, are people like that. They saw a case demonstrating deep wrong doing, and they spent 18 months or so of their lives running it to ground in a way that helps all of us.
 
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Oh FFS..... these two women should be told to go sit down and pay court costs for wasting time. What a frivolous case and it’s impossible to assign blame to the institutions since they weren’t involved with the fraud. And WTF, they prepare a case two days after the charges break - talk about grifting opportunists

https://apple.news/AnAXbu3QLTkGaJQNJqHSIJw
 
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Oh FFS..... these two women should be told to go sit down and pay court costs for wasting time. What a frivolous case and it’s impossible to assign blame to the institutions since they weren’t involved with the fraud. And WTF, they prepare a case two days after the charges break - talk about grifting opportunists

https://apple.news/AnAXbu3QLTkGaJQNJqHSIJw
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