David Villa Departs New York City Football Club

wtf you mean you leaving? :rage:

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Can we just take a moment to note how absurd it is that this event was not streamed live on Facebook, and that the team still hasn't put out a full video of it? Mark said they'd put out a recap. I don't want a recap, no need to edit something together; just post the video.

When we complain about how the team is run, it's because of stuff like this, where they decide to hold an intimate event and close it off to 95% of the fanbase.

An intimate event is cool if it allows fans to have personal interactions with Villa, but why is the rest of the fanbase being closed off from this event? Grab a camera, plug it into facebook, and stream it live so the rest of us can see it.

It's the same things with the City in the boroughs events they did. Why aren't those on Facebook? Why wasn't the silly award show on Facebook? They do these small events and act as if the majority of the fanbase doesn't want to see it. It's so self-defeating and frustrating.
 
Can we just take a moment to note how absurd it is that this event was not streamed live on Facebook, and that the team still hasn't put out a full video of it? Mark said they'd put out a recap. I don't want a recap, no need to edit something together; just post the video.

When we complain about how the team is run, it's because of stuff like this, where they decide to hold an intimate event and close it off to 95% of the fanbase.

An intimate event is cool if it allows fans to have personal interactions with Villa, but why is the rest of the fanbase being closed off from this event? Grab a camera, plug it into facebook, and stream it live so the rest of us can see it.

It's the same things with the City in the boroughs events they did. Why aren't those on Facebook? Why wasn't the silly award show on Facebook? They do these small events and act as if the majority of the fanbase doesn't want to see it. It's so self-defeating and frustrating.

Well said. So do you think they invited people who called in to their seat relocation call? Would make sense as to why they were asking “who is your favorite player”.
 
Can we just take a moment to note how absurd it is that this event was not streamed live on Facebook, and that the team still hasn't put out a full video of it? Mark said they'd put out a recap. I don't want a recap, no need to edit something together; just post the video.

When we complain about how the team is run, it's because of stuff like this, where they decide to hold an intimate event and close it off to 95% of the fanbase.

An intimate event is cool if it allows fans to have personal interactions with Villa, but why is the rest of the fanbase being closed off from this event? Grab a camera, plug it into facebook, and stream it live so the rest of us can see it.

It's the same things with the City in the boroughs events they did. Why aren't those on Facebook? Why wasn't the silly award show on Facebook? They do these small events and act as if the majority of the fanbase doesn't want to see it. It's so self-defeating and frustrating.
I think it circles back to their need to control information and the narrative. At the CITB evens I attended, they announced that we could take pictures and write about what happened, but asked that there be no video. They explained they wanted to encourage the panel to be less guarded about what they say. They just don't want any video that they don't control, which precludes live streams.
By the way this is an attempt at explanation, not justification.
 
I think it circles back to their need to control information and the narrative. At the CITB evens I attended, they announced that we could take pictures and write about what happened, but asked that there be no video. They explained they wanted to encourage the panel to be less guarded about what they say. They just don't want any video that they don't control, which precludes live streams.
By the way this is an attempt at explanation, not justification.

So certain information is good for some fans but not other fans? Why should some fans get more information and accountability than others? If you're willing to say something to 100 people, you should be willing to say it to 1,000.
 
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So certain information is good for some fans but not other fans? Why should some fans get more information and accountability than others? If you're willing to say something to 100 people, you should be willing to say it to 1,000.
I mean, what mgarbowski mgarbowski said still applies. It's about control. Your appeal to fairness (forgive me if I'm mischaracterizing your post) might work on a democratic institution, but the club is driven by capital, so I think making a capital-focused argument maybe makes more sense.
 
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I mean, what mgarbowski mgarbowski still applies. It's about control. Your appeal to fairness (forgive me if I'm mischaracterizing your post) might work on a democratic institution, but the club is driven by capital, so I think making a capital-focused argument maybe makes more sense.
I'm not even sure it's democratic/capital. Lots of private but non-capital based organizations: clubs, unions, NGOs, universities, whatever, want to control information and will restrict public recording of their operations and semipublic events. Even governments only subject part of their proceedings to sunshine laws.
 
Can we just take a moment to note how absurd it is that this event was not streamed live on Facebook, and that the team still hasn't put out a full video of it? Mark said they'd put out a recap. I don't want a recap, no need to edit something together; just post the video.

When we complain about how the team is run, it's because of stuff like this, where they decide to hold an intimate event and close it off to 95% of the fanbase.

An intimate event is cool if it allows fans to have personal interactions with Villa, but why is the rest of the fanbase being closed off from this event? Grab a camera, plug it into facebook, and stream it live so the rest of us can see it.

It's the same things with the City in the boroughs events they did. Why aren't those on Facebook? Why wasn't the silly award show on Facebook? They do these small events and act as if the majority of the fanbase doesn't want to see it. It's so self-defeating and frustrating.

If "the majority of the fanbase" really does want to see hours of longform raw footage, it's not reflected in the viewing figures on YouTube. Go and have a look yourself, the full-length press conferences and the fan Q&As with Dome are comfortably and routinely the least-viewed videos - we're talking a few hundred views, tops. I don't know of a single team our size who thinks blanket unedited coverage is worth it for anyone but the most diehard completist/obsessive. Which is why they don't do it.

I sound like a broken record on this one, but if you honestly feel slighted by the fact it took the team 18 hours to put together a 20-minute recap of a fan event that you didn't get an invite to, you're either looking for an excuse to slate the club, or you have serious entitlement issues.
 
If "the majority of the fanbase" really does want to see hours of longform raw footage, it's not reflected in the viewing figures on YouTube. Go and have a look yourself, the full-length press conferences and the fan Q&As with Dome are comfortably and routinely the least-viewed videos - we're talking a few hundred views, tops. I don't know of a single team our size who thinks blanket unedited coverage is worth it for anyone but the most diehard completist/obsessive. Which is why they don't do it.

I sound like a broken record on this one, but if you honestly feel slighted by the fact it took the team 18 hours to put together a 20-minute recap of a fan event that you didn't get an invite to, you're either looking for an excuse to slate the club, or you have serious entitlement issues.

I'm just saying that it's an example of the problem, not the problem itself.

Though my point questioning why this wasn't streamed live on Facebook still stands. You can cater to your diehard obsessive fans while also creating content for other people.
 
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Seeing Villa emotional made me really emotional.
Watching this video was just really sad. I got the impression that this is a guy who doesn’t really want to leave, but that could be me projecting.
I did laugh about Villa wanting to take the blazer off right away. He probably thought it was an abomination, and would not be caught dead in camo
 
I got the impression that this is a guy who doesn’t really want to leave, but that could be me projecting.

See, I'm not too sure. Most people get emotional when they've put their heart and soul into something for a long long time and the time has come to move on. Happens to me with books sometimes, but generally happens with school. He may not have wanted to leave, or he may, but regardless it's clear that he put his heart and soul into everything he did, and it clearly has left a strong connection and impact in his heart.
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Seeing Villa emotional made me really emotional.
Watching this video was just really sad. I got the impression that this is a guy who doesn’t really want to leave, but that could be me projecting.
I did laugh about Villa wanting to take the blazer off right away. He probably thought it was an abomination, and would not be caught dead in camo

Also the way Patricof said, "We wish it could have gone on longer," ... he sped through it like not even he could say it. Villa also seemed to give him a look that said this was more the team's decision than Villa's.