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Domènec Torrent Appointed NYCFC Head Coach

Discussion in 'Team News and Rumors' started by LionNYC, Jun 11, 2018.

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What Are Your Thoughts on Torrent as NYCFC Head Coach?

  1. Quite Really Pleased

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  4. Neither Pleased or Displeased

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  5. Displeased

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  6. Really Displeased

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  7. Quite Really Displeased

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  1. mgarbowski

    mgarbowski Senior Member Elite Donor Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    I'm trying to pick out the best stuff without giving away the whole article:

    "At least I know from the outset that I have good players, but not the right ones to play as I have almost always played, both when I was first coach in Catalunya and when I was with Pep Guardiola. Assuming a 4-3-3 with open ends and stuck to the line could not do it. But that did not worry me so much. I saw that there was a good team."

    So I guess 4-3-3 is his first choice?

    He speaks with Pep at least once every week.

    He says whether we play his preferred way next year depends on who the club signs. The sporting staff know his preferences but salary cap and international player restrictions must be considered. He has hopes the newcomers help, plus he likes "to work with the quarry "[source/origin?] and he says there are several players in the Academy good enough to play.

    He says they did not compete well against Atlanta and "were very conditioned" [undone/hampered?] by the 0-1 result in a very even first match.

    The specific system is less important than the basic idea of space and position and being good with the ball and playing fast under pressure with 1 or 2 touches. Quique Setién at Betis plays 5 at the back but it is still based on the Cruyff style.

    I tried to improve on the google translation with the above paraphrases.

    My favorite unaltered google translate portion is "MLS is growing a lot. The amateurs go to the field to have fun and that is very nice. Every game day they live it as a show."
    I know that's what I do. Every game day. I live it as a show. Like the amateur I am.

    I think that's the main takeaways. I don't want to post more from a pay-per-copy magazine.

    I would be willing to share some Spanish extracts with FantazmaFantazma to see if he gleans any better meaning, but I can't right now because I left the original pdf at home.
     
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  2. mgarbowski

    mgarbowski Senior Member Elite Donor Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    Fair enough.
     
  3. Fantazma

    Fantazma Senior Member Seasoned Supporter

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    im assuming the word used to translate to "quarry" was actually "Cantera". if so he means the academy. Thats how they call the academy in spanish and in like 99% of latin america too.

    he probably said something like: "me gusta trabajar con la cantera" is so he means he likes working with academy kids in his teams. should theoretically be good news for sands/ scally/ and academy newcomers but will be remain to be seen if its true. normally in spain kids do get chances but if they dont they tend to get sent right away to the B teams or other teams on loans. so i dont think we will wait much past preseason to know if anyone goes on loan or not. we already seen it this year with the two quick loans to louisville.

    as for the rest of article mgarbowskimgarbowski you can send me the PM if you want to see if i can add any more context to quotes.
     
  4. dummyrun

    dummyrun Active Member Elite Donor

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    Would you please post the original Spanish of the excerpts you choose to share?

    What he's describing there—a 4-3-3 with true wingers on the touchline—is the City-style 4-1-4-1 I've been talking about. He called it a 4-3-3 after the Vancouver game too.
     
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  5. Fantazma

    Fantazma Senior Member Seasoned Supporter

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    im very intrigued in this articles as well....seems like a legit X's and O's article. they do alot of these in spain and they usually are good reads but they to charge for them. i have only been able to see a couple samples here and there.
     
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  6. LionNYC

    LionNYC Senior Member Staff Member Elite Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    I wonder what they discuss. Set pieces? Jazz music?

    And that is a great line. Add it to the Don Garber bingo board of MLS quotes.
     
  7. Gotham Gator

    Gotham Gator Senior Member Donor

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    For me, Shradi's play was the biggest sign of change between Vieira and Dome.

    For the first half of the season, watching him cut inside and break people on the dribble to send short passes and launch shots was tremendous.

    For the second half of the season, watching him send in bad crosses to short people was tedious at best.

    If Dome doesn't want him to cut inside, then the team should sell him.
     
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  8. mgarbowski

    mgarbowski Senior Member Elite Donor Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    Can't really do that. A couple are quotes via google, but for all the rest I usually made one sharp coherent sentence out of the key bits of 2-4 rambling sentences. So to post all of that would probably go beyond fair use.

    Anything remotely Xs and Os made it into the excerpts. There's a lot of blah-blah. To be fair to Dome, the interviewer kept circling back to the schedule. And artificial turf.
     
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    Atlanta is interviewing Frank de Boer today.

    So the next time someone tells me to get off my high horse about ambition, just remember that we received a regift for a manager, while the best club in the league (Continent) went out and tried to hire the former manager of Ajax.
     
  11. Fantazma

    Fantazma Senior Member Seasoned Supporter

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    so now everyone is off the Schelotto bus?

    EDIT: best club in continent? lmao...league yes though
     
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    Fun fact about Frank de Boer: when Inter fired him after just 11 league games, they were 13th on the table but 5th in expected points. He tweeted, "It's a shame it ended this way. To carry out this project I needed more time." Wonder if he might have been onto something there.
     
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    Atlanta goes after Frank de Boer: Wow such continental very ambition

    CFG goes after Frank de Boer*: Frank de Boer is an UNEMPLOYED FREE AGENT with a TRACK RECORD OF FAILURE and I want my SEASON TICKET MONEY BACK

    * Yes I know they haven't actually done this...as far as I know
     
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    Someone on here maybe can teach me how to search but de Boer is one of the guys I wanted.
     
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    That's great, but I don't think it would have made us the envy of North American soccer if we had interviewed him. There are apparently no shortage of opportunities to fawn over Atlanta, or to lay into CFG (sometimes you can do both at the same time!) But I don't think Frank de Boer is the hill you want to die on.
     
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    Our manager last managed in the Spanish 3rd Division
     
  18. LionNYC

    LionNYC Senior Member Staff Member Elite Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    Yeah, but he was a critical minor character in the Amazon Prime series All or Nothing: Manchester City
     
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    Very excited for our next DP...the star of Netflix’s Sunderland documentary.
     
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