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Domènec Torrent Appointed NYCFC Head Coach

Discussion in 'Team News and Rumors' started by LionNYC, Jun 11, 2018.

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What Are Your Thoughts on Torrent as NYCFC Head Coach?

  1. Quite Really Pleased

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  2. Really Pleased

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  4. Neither Pleased or Displeased

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  6. Really Displeased

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  7. Quite Really Displeased

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  1. Keith Putnam

    Keith Putnam Senior Member Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    The problem, though, is that variance is so high in this sport that once you're into a knockout tournament your advancement is heavily dependent on luck. This is why for the Big Teams of the world the targets set for managers are typically "get to Round X of Competition Y" because it's unrealistic to set a target of winning a tournament and have that be the criterion around which the manager is sacked or not.
     
  2. Ulrich

    Ulrich Senior Member Elite Donor Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    That’s why top 3 is important. A winning team is good for business, albeit it may be hurt, regarding attendance, by a shitty baseball stadium/field. Sliding in to the playoffs with an unwatchable product isn’t what anybody should be looking to achieve as a safe line to cross - for a NYC team, that should be cause for dismissal.
     
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    QuigrNYCFC Junior Member Seasoned Supporter

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    I would agree with you. We don't know the goals and expectations of Dome from the FO.
     
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    gbservis Senior Member Elite Donor Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    It will also be interesting to see if internal politics accelerate a departure as well. Dome spent the preseason talking about playing a fluid front 3 that didn't necessarily need a true CF only to turn around and start talking about working on acquiring one 2 games in. Complete speculation but if he told the FO he didn't necessarily need a CF and then immediately flip flopped to deflect blame that's going to piss people off. Maxi also appears to be confused and frustrated. Maxi by all accounts has been nothing but professional during his time with the club and he was tremendous for us last year, if the frustration continues how much weight will it hold if Maxi gets to the point where he says something to the FO or requests a trade?

    I'm sure on field results will be the ultimate decider but if Dome continues to tinker, flip-flop on approach, have more combative exchanges with the press, not take accountability for losses and spout constant excuses he seems more than capable of accelerating his own departure.
     
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  5. Ulrich

    Ulrich Senior Member Elite Donor Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    Correction - Dome talked about a fluid front 3/4 all preseason only to do an about face before the first match and say we were looking to bring in a CF.... and we later found out that Kamara went to China and rumored Rossi wasn’t interested & was signing with LAFC (?).

    That’s pretty fcking damning to have that epiphany right before the first match after touting CFG Total Football and letting go the one CF on the roster.
     
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    Kjbert Senior Member Seasoned Supporter

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    Maxi looks as bad as he’s ever looked for us
     
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  7. Kjbert

    Kjbert Senior Member Seasoned Supporter

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    I wonder if CFG has a higher expectation for the club than the club has?

    They just spent $8 million on a single player. In 2018, they spent about $14 million total from what I can tell, including Medina’s transfer.
     
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    gbservis Senior Member Elite Donor Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    Mitrita seems to roam and drop into the same deep midfield spots as Maxi. After watching Mitrita play a couple of games I suspect there would have been an adjustment period for him an Maxi regardless of the system and the coach. That said constantly changing tactics and unclear instructions from Dome are going to compound the issues considerably.
     
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  9. Ulrich

    Ulrich Senior Member Elite Donor Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    This is the coach we need. This is the coach we deserve. This is the coach that would be a massive step up from our current situation.

     
  10. Amon

    Amon Junior Member Seasoned Supporter

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    I've said it before and got crucified for it. But I'll continue to say it. We cannot be happy and content with what they're giving us, that goes for everything. The results, lack of transparency, no stadium news, broken promises. Some fans are so content with the bs that gets spewed and take it and run with it. "Oh Reyna said we got X plan in mind and something is going to happen." And just forget all the broken promises. We have to express frustration with the FO and the team at games. We can't clap it up and cheer for them after shitty performances. It shows that we're okay with that. Even some of the biggest names in baseball got boo'd here in NYC for not doing their job. We pay to see these guys perform at a high level in a very demanding city. We have a rich ownership that's very capable of putting a great team together but for what ever reason we got Dome out here screwing shit up and also Reyna is to blame. I'm on the Reyna Out train as much as I am on the Dome Out train.
     
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  11. Christopher Jee

    Christopher Jee Senior Member Elite Donor Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    Does it make sense to stop cheering for the _players_ when the frustration is directed at Dome, Reyna and / or CFG, though?
     
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    Perhaps stop cheering for the team. Cheer for an individual if they do something apparent, but it’s ok to boo the team at halftime/end of game if they look atrocious. It removes the guilt you’re feeling Christopher JeeChristopher Jee because it’s approaches the result on the field as a representation of the organization and not the individual players.
     
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    Christopher Jee Senior Member Elite Donor Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    Lol it's not really about guilt, more about clarity of messaging.
     
  14. Kjbert

    Kjbert Senior Member Seasoned Supporter

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    We’ve never booed this team. I don’t see it starting yet. This isn’t a team that’s woven into the fabric of the city like you would see in Europe - or the Yankees here.

    Most fans feel detached from the team except a small group of Ultras (don’t know what else to call them). If they booed, and it would have to start with the leadership of TR and NYCSC, and even then, I don’t think it would be received well by most of the other fans. There’s a lot of casual fandom with this club.
     
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  15. Ulrich

    Ulrich Senior Member Elite Donor Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    Not true. I don’t remember the matches, but the fans have booed in the past across multiple matches. The only one that directly comes to mind was the RedBull Wedding, but there were more.
     
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    Kjbert Senior Member Seasoned Supporter

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    Fine.

    What I’m getting at is the general apathy across the fan base. My kid isn’t booing. The family that goes twice a year isn’t booing. I’m probably not booing.

    There isn’t a deep emotional connection to the club. Instead of booing, people like me will just stop going.
     
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  17. Ulrich

    Ulrich Senior Member Elite Donor Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    That’s your prerogative and it’s perfectly acceptable. Has the downturn in tix sales really sent a message to the FO? They still inflate the attendance numbers.
     
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    It is a disappointment to me that neither the culture nor technology have developed sufficiently and as such both booing and car horns still end up directed at far more people than the intended targets.
     
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  19. Ulrich

    Ulrich Senior Member Elite Donor Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    It must really piss you off then that Emergency Sirens are ignored by the specific cars in front of them because they don’t want to turn right/left to get out of the way.
     
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    Christopher Jee Senior Member Elite Donor Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    I agree. Part of why I moved to SS this season.
     

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