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FIFA World Cup 2022 - Qatar

Discussion in 'World Cup Discussion' started by adam, Dec 24, 2018.

  1. adam

    adam Senior Member Elite Donor Donor Seasoned Supporter

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    As long as we don't get Munich 1972 again.

    Anyway, once we get to the 48 team format, I can see Israel qualifying for most world cups as they're usually very close every cycle but miss bc of better teams, they might have a shot now. However, that'll be for our world cup, not Qatar's. (Please pull and Iceland, please!)
     
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    But how many of those Israelies keep kosher?
     
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    Most Israelis seem to keep kosher in terms of meat in my experiences. Dairy is all good though.
     
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    Has Israel really been "very close" lately?

    • In 2018 they finished 4th in their group. There were 5 other UEFA teams that didn't advance to the finals after finishing second in their group.
    • In 2014 they finished 3rd in their group, but again, 5 other UEFA teams didn't advance after finishing 2nd in their groups. Other teams that finished 3rd include Serbia, Czech Republic, Hungary, Slovenia, and Slovakia. I can't remember the quality of all of those squads back in 2014, but they are usually decent
    • In 2010, they finished 4th in their group, again 5 other UEFA teams didn't advance after finishing 2nd in their respective groups.
    If the following article is to be trusted at all (https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39448474), then UEFA would only grab 3 more spots. Based on the last three WC qualifying rounds, I don't see how Israel is close to qualifying.

    I don't mean to pooh pooh Israel. And perhaps they have a lot of young talent and should be better in the next couple of cycles, I just don't see any evidence from previous UEFA WC qualifying to suggest that they should be in most WCs going forward.
     
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    Nah, Israel sucks at soccer lol. I actually didn't see that UEFA would grab just 3 more slots, I was thinking they'd get spoiled again and get another like 6-8 spots (since they always get a brunt of the allocation) If it's only like 3 more, then I don't see them qualifying... Still means they have a higher chance, though, but unlikely.
     
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    Israel legit has only two good players - Zahavi who will be too old next WC cycle and Manor Solomon who was sought after by Man U and Loserpool and Juve for a bit as he’s only 19 and rather good. Otherwise the team is trash and Israelis are notoriously uncoachable. You don’t have one coach 11 players, with Israel you get 12 coaches.
     
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    Is this a made up stereotype or a generally accepted one?

    I've never heard it before, but find it surprising. I spent a few months with a group training about 100 Israeli soldiers on something and they were very cooperative and attentive. Maybe it was just the military environment which brings upon more discipline.
     
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    All I'm gathering from this discussion is that like 99% of this forum either are Jewish, or have some other ties with Israel. (Better than wherever I walk, some random dude will always come up to me and say "my name is Marty. But you can call me Menachem.")
     
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    I played with a lot of the youth teams in both the league and the NT there, so I know a lot of the players 26 and younger. I know the mentality of the players there lol, it’s not a stereotype. It’s a sport not a life or death exercise, israelis have a vastly bloated ego outside the barracks.

    Safe bet I’m one of maybe two Israelis here tbh
     
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    I'm Israeli, though moved when I was 6, but my entire family is too and has served in the military. (Except me, since I live here) I can agree, Israelis have bloated egos- they always think they're the smartest ones around in any group of people and everything they say is always right no matter what. :) ...and it's also the same reason they suck at soccer.
     
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    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
     
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