Do we care about anyone on this list?
https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/12/14/list-players-eligible-2017-mls-re-entry-draft-stage-1
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MLS Re-Entry Draft - Stage 2: 12/21 2PM
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I'm not excited about any names. Maybe some depth.
Stage 1, we have to make a bona fide offer, stage two we can negotiate, but are not obligated to reach a deal.
Stage 1, we have to make a bona fide offer, stage two we can negotiate, but are not obligated to reach a deal.
He’s too old (and poor) to stay on an MLS roster even at a low wage given the new and increased budget mechanisms.
It’s all about filling those non-cap-applicable slots with youth, IMO.
Barbell strategy seems to be the order of the day (decade) for MLS. I’m curious to see how it works in sports. I predict success, as it’s pretty clearly sound in other fields.
To answer the original question - there are several guys I’d take for $200-300k per. But I don’t know if we could get them for that.
There is some decent quality in there, amongst the dregs. I, possibly irrationally, have an affinity for Giles Barnes. But I think he’s making closer to $1M than $200. Too lazy to verify.
If Laba were cheap enough and reliably healthy, he’d be a decent depth option as a dmid.
To have a valid opinion on any of these options just requires more knowledge than I am capable of possessing and/or more research than I am willing to do.
Dilly dilly.
There is some decent quality in there, amongst the dregs. I, possibly irrationally, have an affinity for Giles Barnes. But I think he’s making closer to $1M than $200. Too lazy to verify.
If Laba were cheap enough and reliably healthy, he’d be a decent depth option as a dmid.
To have a valid opinion on any of these options just requires more knowledge than I am capable of possessing and/or more research than I am willing to do.
Dilly dilly.
There aren't any players that jump off the page to be interested. Most teams will pass during Stage 1 as if you select a player you have to pickup their current contract.
Stage 2 allows you to negotiate with that player for a new contract (i.e. reduced salary). Possibly we pick someone in Stage 2.
Stage 2 allows you to negotiate with that player for a new contract (i.e. reduced salary). Possibly we pick someone in Stage 2.
perhaps...but who is young out there that will take that spot? only a draft pick i guess.....i dont see anyone else from academy getting signed
Hot take: Under the new TAM rules, you're better off having a guy making $600k than $300k for Cap purposes.
Yep.
The more I think about the new TAM rules, the more I realize they create a perverse incentive to pay a guy over $500K just for the cap relief.
If the salary was whatever you think is an appropriate number (which I don't think would happen) ... Jermaine Jones adds quality depth even at his age.
Kind of agree. He'd be one hell of a super sub and could give you 5-10 really strong 90s per year. But yeah, $ makes it unlikely.
Seems like he's all about going to Mexico.
But isn't it more likely that you spend that 500k on a new guy and enjoy the cap space to keep that non-TAM player appropriately paid?
To me, looking at it the way you are really only applies in individual cases. I should hope our FO and others are a little beyond that first-level analysis.
I don't know, frankly. But why not give someone else a shot. It's not like anyone wants to be relying on anything out of a Lopez type anyway.
With all of the depth chart topping quality afforded by that sweet allocation money, we're talking about a guy that is likely 4th choice at best for any position he might play, and likely 7 or 8 as a mid.
I am a big fan of you get two years to show something, and if you don't and you're over 21, buhbye.
Jones is on $722,000, which is good for roster construction. You can buy him down with TAM, so that he only hits the cap at $150,000.
The question is whether you can go out and get someone else who is even better with that $722,000? Probably, although Jones is low hanging fruit (i.e. just sitting there for the picking - no scouting required), and he doesn't require an international slot.
LA got 20 games and almost 1,600 minutes out of him, which is about what we would need. He could come in to help us hold leads late in games and be a good first option to start when another midfielder is out. Question is whether the quality is still there.
The question is whether you can go out and get someone else who is even better with that $722,000? Probably, although Jones is low hanging fruit (i.e. just sitting there for the picking - no scouting required), and he doesn't require an international slot.
LA got 20 games and almost 1,600 minutes out of him, which is about what we would need. He could come in to help us hold leads late in games and be a good first option to start when another midfielder is out. Question is whether the quality is still there.
Multiple issues with Jones:
He's old
He doesn't train (when he was with Colorado, he spent non game days back in LA with his family)
He's relatively expensive for the production that he can provide at this point
Guys in the locker room apparently love him, despite his reputation. The question would be - is there someone out there that can do Jermaine Jones "stuff" without it being Jermaine Jones. You're not going to bring in Danny Williams, but there are guys out there that can play all 3 midfield positions like he does.
He's old
He doesn't train (when he was with Colorado, he spent non game days back in LA with his family)
He's relatively expensive for the production that he can provide at this point
Guys in the locker room apparently love him, despite his reputation. The question would be - is there someone out there that can do Jermaine Jones "stuff" without it being Jermaine Jones. You're not going to bring in Danny Williams, but there are guys out there that can play all 3 midfield positions like he does.
The scenario is this. You go acquire a player. The right salary is $400,000. This is a big commitment from a cap perspective, and with 3 DPs, you don't have the space. So, you pay him $550,000 instead, and buy it down with TAM so that he only counts $150,000 against the cap.
One reason teams might do this is that there is now a ton of TAM sloshing around, and it is not easy to spend it all given how restrictive the rules are. To spend the $4 million (not to mention the $5.2 million if 2019 is brought forward), you need to sign 4 different guys on $1.15 million salaries, or 6 different guys on $825,000 salaries, or 8 different guys on $650,000 salaries. That's a lot of people.
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Midas Mulligan is always interested in Everton players that fit here, Mo Besic would be a Jermaine Jones type player. Everton would give him to you right now.
Midas Mulligan is always interested in Everton players that fit here, Mo Besic would be a Jermaine Jones type player. Everton would give him to you right now.
This is correct. It threatens to extend differences between clubs with owners that spend and the ones with owners that do not. In our case, we will all be disappointed if the Pigeons do not spend all of it. I expect most teams will do so.
If our team doesn't spend the Discretionary TAM, it's another nail in the coffin for me. Unfortunately, there is no way of knowing since MLS isn't transparent.
You know the Krafts and Anthony Precourt aren't spending that money. I bet Merritt Paulson doesn't either, but he's been a good owner.
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