NASL has lost D2 sanction.

If rumors are correct, they would basically have to pay FOX stupid lots of money. When the 2018/2022 tv deal was signed, apparently it was promised that the US would get one of them. They did not, so to make good FIFA essentially gave FOX the rights to 2026, which should be in the US. Rumors though

Actually, the gift of the 2026 rights was because the 2022 world cup was moved to December from June, which is a more crowded sports calendar and less likely to generate high ratings. Of course, FIFA should have just renegotiated with Fox or rebid altogether instead of gifting them billions.
 
In the background here remains Miami FC's petition to the Court Of Arbitration For Sport to require FIFA to require US Soccer to institute pro/rel.

While I have romantic interest in pro/rel being incorporated into the US system I find it amazing that NASL owners believe that instituting pro/rel will somehow make soccer fans want to come see their shitty teams play.

I will say that the bit of the lawsuit which casts the stink eye at US Soccer for contracting with SUM could have some (heh) merit.
The more hilarious thing is that if the court rules that the division system is anti-competitive and gets rid of divisions, pro/reg would be killed forever.
 
Actually, the gift of the 2026 rights was because the 2022 world cup was moved to December from June, which is a more crowded sports calendar and less likely to generate high ratings. Of course, FIFA should have just renegotiated with Fox or rebid altogether instead of gifting them billions.
FIFA breached their contract with Fox. Fox was preparing to sue them.
 
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The more hilarious thing is that if the court rules that the division system is anti-competitive and gets rid of divisions, pro/reg would be killed forever.
That's a can of worms no judge wants to open. The NCAA would be teetering on the edge of the crater....
 
That's a can of worms no judge wants to open. The NCAA would be teetering on the edge of the crater....
Totally different situations. The charge is that USSF has actively conspired with MLS and USL to move goal posts on divisional requirements to prevent NASL from becoming a D1 league and to demoted from D2 to D3. I don't see how that applies to NCAA unless you have the NCAA conspiring with member schools to prevent say a D2 school from moving up to D1.
 
Totally different situations. The charge is that USSF has actively conspired with MLS and USL to move goal posts on divisional requirements to prevent NASL from becoming a D1 league and to demoted from D2 to D3. I don't see how that applies to NCAA unless you have the NCAA conspiring with member schools to prevent say a D2 school from moving up to D1.
Perhaps not the member schools moving but the players being able to transfer openly without penalty?

But I see your point regarding the leagues. Lots of college fans can sleep better at night.
 
The more hilarious thing is that if the court rules that the division system is anti-competitive and gets rid of divisions, pro/reg would be killed forever.

Forgive my lack of knowledge of the US sport industry, but why do you say that? Do you just mean that every organisation and their mums would be free to create a new league and call it equal to mls, so you'd create a landscape where every team that wants to be D1 can get there simultaneously?

If that's not what you're talking about then I'm not sure I get you.
 
Forgive my lack of knowledge of the US sport industry, but why do you say that? Do you just mean that every organisation and their mums would be free to create a new league and call it equal to mls, so you'd create a landscape where every team that wants to be D1 can get there simultaneously?

If that's not what you're talking about then I'm not sure I get you.

If NASL gets an end to divisional sanctioning it wouldn't eliminate pro/rel. it would effectively end any chance of them ever doing so with MLS (already non-existent). If they eliminate sanctioning they could call themselves D1 and their league could establish whatever pyramid it wanted for teams that wanted to part of that league.
 
If anyone passed by it, here's the direct link to the article by the SFD pres. It's actually a pretty interesting read, but in the end, comes off extremely desperate.

It's over for the Deltas. I consider myself a San Franciscan after spending over a decade of my best years living there. I hate to say it, but anyone from SF saw the unavoidable failure of this team from a mile away. With the exception of a few, SF is not going to support a "minor" league team. Every team that has tried in the past has failed. I've watched it first hand as a STH for one of those teams.

SF is just WAY too expensive for minor league sports. Because of high operating costs, they have to charge way more for their product. Why the hell would I spend $20 to see the Deltas at Kezar when I could spent $10 to see the Giants at arguably the best baseball stadium in the country? That $20 is for a wooden bleacher seat, too. It's $35 to sit in a seat with a back on it. Insane.

The branding is a complete disaster. If you have to constantly explain what the hell you were going for, you have completely missed the mark.

They have spent resources in the stupidest of ways. They allocate bandwidth to having an English AND Spanish AND Portuguese broadcast. Why??? The waste that is their "flex seating". Like anyone is going to care enough to sit with other fans that like Messi. Get your basics down and grow from there.

They've clearly struggled immensely in obtaining sponsorship. Look at their ad boards around the field. They are mostly promoting the team's social media accounts with a couple of small, local sponsors having signs. No jersey sponsor at all.

I'm sure that they were limited in some capacity, but scheduling is terrible. Every game is a night game. People in SF don't want to sit out in the thick fog and wind that consumes the area that Kezar is in for night games. Day games were a must.

A lot of NASL people really thought that SF would be a savior during a very uncertain time. Unfortunately that have been quite the opposite and will ultimately hurt an already damaged NASL reputation. Will it fold the league like the article in the OP suggests? Eh. Pretty sensationalized.

It's just been a series of unexplainable decisions. Could this team work in SF if they had taken some different steps? Maybe. But the odds were heavily stacked against them from the get go and they didn't do themselves any favors. The saddest part is that they were able to put together a VERY competitive team on the field. Second in the spring season. Too bad the rest of the club has been a complete failure.
Yeah but it was fun watching them almost beat the cosmos
 
are the NASL teams really going to wait for the legal decision to be made? wouldn't that take months? i mean they dont all have the time to wait around that long, especially since teams want to to either leave or about to fold.
 
are the NASL teams really going to wait for the legal decision to be made? wouldn't that take months? i mean they dont all have the time to wait around that long, especially since teams want to to either leave or about to fold.

Presumably the court will act quickly to either issue or deny their request for an injunction to continue operating as D2. On the other hand, im sure most if not every owner in the NASL is looking for how to jump ship. If the league starts to fracture then both the CAS and USSF submissions lose their sting.
 
Presumably the court will act quickly to either issue or deny their request for an injunction to continue operating as D2. On the other hand, im sure most if not every owner in the NASL is looking for how to jump ship. If the league starts to fracture then both the CAS and USSF submissions lose their sting.

i know north carolina wants to leave and deltas are about to fold....plus all the rumors that not all teams wanted to do this. i think edmonton also having second thoughts...so thats probably three teams out already. so it may fall even if it wins this, then who is left?
 
i know north carolina wants to leave and deltas are about to fold....plus all the rumors that not all teams wanted to do this. i think edmonton also having second thoughts...so thats probably three teams out already. so it may fall even if it wins this, then who is left?

There were confirmed reports that four teams didn't want to proceed with the lawsuit. And that at least one of those four was not at the meeting that decided whether to proceed with the lawsuit or not.

Also can anyone give some insight into the validity of the arguments analyzed in this piece?

http://amp.timeinc.net/si/soccer/2017/09/25/nasl-us-soccer-lawsuit-questions-fifa-kessler?source=dam
 
There were confirmed reports that four teams didn't want to proceed with the lawsuit. And that at least one of those four was not at the meeting that decided whether to proceed with the lawsuit or not.
Or phrased another way, HALF of the NASL did not want to proceed with the lawsuit.

That's really pathetic that they've filed a lawsuit on behalf of the league when they don't even have a majority supporting it. What a trainwreck!!!
 
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Or phrased another way, HALF of the NASL did not want to proceed with the lawsuit.

That's really pathetic that they've filed a lawsuit on behalf of the league when they don't even have a majority supporting it. What a trainwreck!!!
Well, who knows who's actually in the league right now. The expansion sides had been very quiet leading up to the initial USSF decision, and I think NC and Indy likely notified the USSF that they would be exiting after the season. So they may only have had 6 teams, including teams like SF and PR most likely just running out the clock on the season.
 
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There were confirmed reports that four teams didn't want to proceed with the lawsuit. And that at least one of those four was not at the meeting that decided whether to proceed with the lawsuit or not.

Also can anyone give some insight into the validity of the arguments analyzed in this piece?

http://amp.timeinc.net/si/soccer/2017/09/25/nasl-us-soccer-lawsuit-questions-fifa-kessler?source=dam
The arbitration piece is very interesting. Case could get thrown out quick. I also wonder if Kesler has ulterior motives for taking the case as he is sueing USSF in the gender wage discrimination case for the WNT.
 
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Copying this in since the site was rendering like garbage on mobile, these are the dates to watch for

http://firstteampod.com/nasl-v-ussf-lawsuit-gets-a-hearing-date/

Judge Brodie of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York, at 225 Cadman Plaza East, Brooklyn, New York, set the following briefing schedule:

October 16th, 2017: The USSF shall file its opposition, if any.

October 23rd: The NASL shall file its reply, if any.

October 31st: The Court will hold a hearing, if necessary [spoiler; it will], on the NASL’s original motion for a preliminary injunction at 10:00 AM ET at the Theodore Roosevelt Federal Courthouse, in Courtroom 6F North.
 
Copying this in since the site was rendering like garbage on mobile, these are the dates to watch for

http://firstteampod.com/nasl-v-ussf-lawsuit-gets-a-hearing-date/

Judge Brodie of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York, at 225 Cadman Plaza East, Brooklyn, New York, set the following briefing schedule:

October 16th, 2017: The USSF shall file its opposition, if any.

October 23rd: The NASL shall file its reply, if any.

October 31st: The Court will hold a hearing, if necessary [spoiler; it will], on the NASL’s original motion for a preliminary injunction at 10:00 AM ET at the Theodore Roosevelt Federal Courthouse, in Courtroom 6F North.
The courthouse is across the street from me. Typically for big cases, like terrorism or mafia stuff, the news crews blanket the sidewalk with their trucks and uplinks, and sometimes even a helicopter. Something tells me it's going to be quiet on the street for those dates.
 
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