NYCFC Players Wanted Thread

Signing aging superstars is not what our club is doing right now. That's not to say we won't change direction, but I don't see us signing him if it is contrary to the Club's then current strategy.
I also get the sense that he's not one who would really fill a ton of seats. Sure, David Silva has been a mainstay for ManCity and the Spanish National Team, but do we really think we'd get a material attendance bump from him? I don't think so.
 
I also get the sense that he's not one who would really fill a ton of seats. Sure, David Silva has been a mainstay for ManCity and the Spanish National Team, but do we really think we'd get a material attendance bump from him? I don't think so.
Agreed. Fan excitement does not uniformly correlate with greatness, and mostly it correlates with putting the ball in the net.

The other thing is there's a benefit to bringing in players from big clubs -- remember all the Liverpool and Chelsea shirts when the Galaxy played at YS when Gerrard and Lampard were here. But (1) Man City for all its recent success lags behind the other big clubs in worldwide fanbases, including here in the US, and (2) we shouldn't need to put Man City players in a NYCFC uniform to get the attention of Man City fans.
 
I also get the sense that he's not one who would really fill a ton of seats. Sure, David Silva has been a mainstay for ManCity and the Spanish National Team, but do we really think we'd get a material attendance bump from him? I don't think so.

It's more fundamental than that. Our strategy as a club has changed. We are emphasizing young talent. I don't see them operating outside of that strategy unless it changes again.

Agreed. Fan excitement does not uniformly correlate with greatness, and mostly it correlates with putting the ball in the net.

The other thing is there's a benefit to bringing in players from big clubs -- remember all the Liverpool and Chelsea shirts when the Galaxy played at YS when Gerrard and Lampard were here. But (1) Man City for all its recent success lags behind the other big clubs in worldwide fanbases, including here in the US, and (2) we shouldn't need to put Man City players in a NYCFC uniform to get the attention of Man City fans.

I actually think it would be a good benefit to have one older, high-profile DP that puts fans in the seats. We need better attendance to improve the atmosphere at the games (and further drive attendance). If that can be improved by signing an aging star that still has enough in the tank to contribute on the field - then I am in favor of saving on DP spot for that kind of guy. I think it is pretty clear, however, that the Club thinks differently.
 
It's more fundamental than that. Our strategy as a club has changed. We are emphasizing young talent. I don't see them operating outside of that strategy unless it changes again.
Oh, I totally agree with you. Just wanted to point out that I'm not even sure I'd put David Silva in the aging superstars that will draw fans bucket.
 
To elaborate, Malmo fans are saying he's energetic and has a great work rate. That coupled with at least decent skill is a winning combo in MLS.

http://www.fotbolldirekt.se/2019/06...-med-anders-christiansen-nar-han-ar-tillbaka/

Google translate is a little wonky, but it sounds like (1) Malmo has a bit of a midfield glut with Fouad Bachirou returning from injury (2) Christiansen is most comfortable playing deeper and is an excellent distributor. Seems like the general discussion is around which two players should be first choice CMs for Malmo going forward, the two mentioned above plus a 23-year-old DM named Innocent.
 
Oh, I totally agree with you. Just wanted to point out that I'm not even sure I'd put David Silva in the aging superstars that will draw fans bucket.

I think it bears debating how it would be different from signing Villa. Yes, DV was younger, but he was at a relatively similar stage of decline (was not a sure starter for Barza or Atletico anymore). Silva has been one of the best players in the PL (and the world, really) for the longest time. His pedigree is second to none. Maybe he has less star power than DV had because he's not a striker, but OTOH casual American soccer fans pay much more attention to the PL than LaLiga, and also those who ever think of LaLiga would probably focus on the Barza v Real, Messi v Ronaldo dichotomy, whereas PL allows for more diverse allegiances.

I think at this point we cannot imagine our club without DV, and part of the attendance success of 2015, 16 etc. was due to novelty value. But to think that Pirlo, Lampard or even DV by themselves would bring substantially more butts into seats that Silva misses the context, which is: it is 2019 and people have tired of NYCFC. We still play in a baseball stadium, the brand is stale. Playing our best soccer ever under PV our attendance was down, and again playing very well currently under Dome it is even further down.

The only way to turn that tide would be to appeal to Hispanic fan base with a 100% flash-rather-than-substance move such as bringing Chicharito or Falcao. Literally a rebirth of the brand in terms of the shock value. Even Aguero would probably not cut it, although he would be better soccer-wise and would score like a maniac. I am not sure Argentina would move the same amount of fans Colombia or Mexico would mobilize.

So I don't think the problem would be Silva per se.
 
Looks like LAG will be moving on from Romain Alessandrini after his contract expires at the end of the year, as they are signing Cristian Pavon from Boca. Any interest despite the knee injury?
 
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I think it bears debating how it would be different from signing Villa. Yes, DV was younger, but he was at a relatively similar stage of decline (was not a sure starter for Barza or Atletico anymore). Silva has been one of the best players in the PL (and the world, really) for the longest time. His pedigree is second to none. Maybe he has less star power than DV had because he's not a striker, but OTOH casual American soccer fans pay much more attention to the PL than LaLiga, and also those who ever think of LaLiga would probably focus on the Barza v Real, Messi v Ronaldo dichotomy, whereas PL allows for more diverse allegiances.

I think at this point we cannot imagine our club without DV, and part of the attendance success of 2015, 16 etc. was due to novelty value. But to think that Pirlo, Lampard or even DV by themselves would bring substantially more butts into seats that Silva misses the context, which is: it is 2019 and people have tired of NYCFC. We still play in a baseball stadium, the brand is stale. Playing our best soccer ever under PV our attendance was down, and again playing very well currently under Dome it is even further down.

The only way to turn that tide would be to appeal to Hispanic fan base with a 100% flash-rather-than-substance move such as bringing Chicharito or Falcao. Literally a rebirth of the brand in terms of the shock value. Even Aguero would probably not cut it, although he would be better soccer-wise and would score like a maniac. I am not sure Argentina would move the same amount of fans Colombia or Mexico would mobilize.

So I don't think the problem would be Silva per se.
I think Silva does have less star power than DV, partly because of the striker vs midfielder as you pointed out, but also just personality-wise. DV is a bit more out there than Silva. (One super quick check that isn't something that should be considered the end-all-be-all: DV has 5.7m followers on instagram, Silva, 1.2m)

That said, I think all the other points you laid are completely spot on and agree that the problem wouldn't be Silva per se. I do think it will be tough to have any new player on their own, bring a ton more attendance except for those situations you laid out above.
 
I think it bears debating how it would be different from signing Villa. Yes, DV was younger, but he was at a relatively similar stage of decline (was not a sure starter for Barza or Atletico anymore). Silva has been one of the best players in the PL (and the world, really) for the longest time. His pedigree is second to none. Maybe he has less star power than DV had because he's not a striker, but OTOH casual American soccer fans pay much more attention to the PL than LaLiga, and also those who ever think of LaLiga would probably focus on the Barza v Real, Messi v Ronaldo dichotomy, whereas PL allows for more diverse allegiances.

I think at this point we cannot imagine our club without DV, and part of the attendance success of 2015, 16 etc. was due to novelty value. But to think that Pirlo, Lampard or even DV by themselves would bring substantially more butts into seats that Silva misses the context, which is: it is 2019 and people have tired of NYCFC. We still play in a baseball stadium, the brand is stale. Playing our best soccer ever under PV our attendance was down, and again playing very well currently under Dome it is even further down.

The only way to turn that tide would be to appeal to Hispanic fan base with a 100% flash-rather-than-substance move such as bringing Chicharito or Falcao. Literally a rebirth of the brand in terms of the shock value. Even Aguero would probably not cut it, although he would be better soccer-wise and would score like a maniac. I am not sure Argentina would move the same amount of fans Colombia or Mexico would mobilize.

So I don't think the problem would be Silva per se.
While I don’t necessarily disagree with anything you say, I don’t think the team is or should be focused on drawing fans to YS at this point. The greatest draw will be driven by a new stadium. They may indeed supplement that with a big name to open the shiny new stadium. But the rebirth will be with our new home.
 
Looks like LAG will be moving on from Romain Alessandrini after his contract expires at the end of the year, as they are signing Cristian Pavon from Boca. Any interest despite the knee injury?
Doubtful. Too many outside players as it is, though I love him as a player.
 
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