I'm thinking he is just waiting until Thanksgiving is over to head on over
NYCFC Academy - General Discussion
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https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/20...u17mnt-for-2018-nike-international-friendlies
Tayvon Gray and Joe Scally called up for the 2018 Nike International Friendlies as part of the US U17.
Also Giovanni Reyna has been called up. Unattached FC.
Tayvon Gray and Joe Scally called up for the 2018 Nike International Friendlies as part of the US U17.
Also Giovanni Reyna has been called up. Unattached FC.
Why would NYCFC retweet this US U17 tweet talking about Gio Reyna when he's NO LONGER A PART OF THIS CLUB!
That’s maybe a little much. If we’d received compensation for the move of course no one here would be complaining about a tweet or pretending Gio should be dead to us. It’s not Gio’s fault, or the club’s, that the system doesn’t work. But, compensation or no, the club still has a real interest in showing that its academy can be a legitimate launch point. We gotta snap up all the other team’s prospects somehow, after all.
I'm not so sure. If he left us and directly signed in Europe, or some rough equivalent, then I'd agree, even if it were without compensation for the team. But he just left. He didn't graduate. He didn't sign anywhere better. He left the academy for nothing, because apparently he thinks that it is better for him to be affiliated with the void than working out with us for the last several months. That's a slap in the face no matter how you slice it, and celebrating him is pathetic.
You know this for sure? I figured we were in a signed-but-not-announced kind of situation. Doesn’t make much sense the other way.
And I’d think it’s much more likely that us kibitzers don’t know full details than that a young, talented, ambitious soccer player, whose dad is a national team legend and sporting director of a major club, would behave irrationally when it comes to his career.
Signed but not announced would be illegal, no? Didn’t it have something to do with his age and signing before he hit 16(?) is against the European labor laws. So he took off from NYCFC, fine, his choice.... but if it was to start training with Dortmund before turning 16, then that’s between him/Dortmund and NYCFC should not be celebrating him any longer if no affiliation remains.
Yeah, idk about contract details or what they can and can’t do. But putting Dortmund aside, my point is that even if “no affiliation remains” currently, the club still has a real interest in highlighting the successes of players who came up through our academy.
No, I don't know anything for sure. But this club -- Reyna included -- routinely keep us in the dark and roughly half the time it's because they're hiding something negative so I don't give them the benefit of the doubt when things are kept in the shadows. This whole situation was a conflict of interest from the beginning anyway. And maybe the club had some safeguards in place with respect to that, but they never told us that either, so I can only work under the knowledge I have, which is that the head of our academy placed his son in our academy, then withdrew him after 4 years while he was still academy-eligible, without signing with us, without switching to another academy, and without signing with a more prestigious team, or indeed with anybody.
Maybe he left because it would be an even worse and more embarrassing look if he leaves for another professional club in his final year(s) of academy eligibility after using our academy for all it can offer.
Maybe he left because dad fears that a ruling on academy compensation is on the way, and the need to compensate NYCFC will limit Gio's options, so better to leave before any new rules are in place.
Maybe he left because he secretly is affiliated with someone else now and for reasons unknown they don't want to say.
If the Reyna's want acclaim because Gio signed with a European Academy then announce it.
Look, if Justin Haak quietly left the NYCFC Academy in May, after Reyna senior tried to convince him to stay or even sign, and Haak rejected us but was publicly unaffiliated because he would rather have no club than be part of the NYCFC academy, and then Haak had a nice day with the USMNT U17s, I don't think NYCFC would be tweeting about it.
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Agreed on the club’s comms strategy and the difficulties of our situation with Gio.
But I guess we’ll have to disagree on the point here. I think it’s rational to promote the sporting success of our former club and academy players, largely regardless of the circumstances under which they left us, for the reasons stated above. I want players to know that in coming here they can elevate their potential, hone their skills and earn access to real opportunities.
Of course I’d like the best opportunities then to be with our own club. But that’s a separate matter, where we need to get the fucking act together on a USL team and actually playing our academy graduates.
I think it’s also important to mention the fact that another NYCFC player I believe is clearly visible in the video, which could be what they were going for.
School term isn’t over.
Our PR isn’t transparent and that sucks.
Our PR isn’t transparent and that sucks.
Did this kid shit in your bed or bang your daughter?
This kid is a stud and a top tier talent. We should be trying to take as much credit as possible for his development to promote our academy especially as we are competing against the Red Bulls for future academy players.
Very smallminded to blame Gio for systematic problems. It's not Gio's fault that there is no training compensation or solidarity payments. It's not Gio's fault that MLS is not as high up as the Bundesliga in the soccer food chain. I fault Claudio zero for wanting the best for his kid.
If you want to be pissed at something be pissed we dont have a USL team to provide an academy to pros pipeline.
This kid is a stud and a top tier talent. We should be trying to take as much credit as possible for his development to promote our academy especially as we are competing against the Red Bulls for future academy players.
Very smallminded to blame Gio for systematic problems. It's not Gio's fault that there is no training compensation or solidarity payments. It's not Gio's fault that MLS is not as high up as the Bundesliga in the soccer food chain. I fault Claudio zero for wanting the best for his kid.
If you want to be pissed at something be pissed we dont have a USL team to provide an academy to pros pipeline.
Why would NYCFC retweet a recap of a game that one of our HGPs played in?
Dear god loosen up and quit with the “shit in your bed or bang your daughter” quips.
Pretty sure you’re a teacher, so maybe reading comprehension isn’t what you teach but should be in your wheelhouse, and yet you’ve misinterpreted what everybody has posted and NOBODY is pissed at Gio. People are pissed at the club and Claudio for promoting a former academy player that has cut ties with the club.
I'll take your word for that, but if that player is why NYCFC retweeted this, they need to provide more clues. The only player speaking, featured and fully named, is not one of ours. The only player he names - first name only- is Gio. Their uniforms have no names. So unless the twitter audience has generally memorized our Academy players' national team numbers, or faces, that person might as well not be in the video unless the Tweet IDs him.
Hell, even you hedge with "I believe is clearly visible". The point is, when someone like you -- who probably has shown as much interest and knowledge of our Academy as anyone else on a forum full of obsessives -- can't positively ID the featured player in a clip, then the club needs to add "check out our Number ##, ___ _____" to its retweet.
