It would have been nice to bring someone in with some clout for attracting some talent though. Not sure if he moves the needle.
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Eh. I think you underrate how big of a deal it is to hire the ex manager of Celtic. That’s a huge job. I know he ended up back in a shit league but it’s a big deal to be Celtic manager.
I became a full-fledged club football fan in 2010 and one of the first things which became apparent (to me at least) was the low level of quality demonstrated in Scotland's domestic league. It's stone age football. No offense to anyone who is an avid watcher/fan.
Aside from Rodgers (and I hesitate to call him elite (I won't), though he did pretty well with Swansea and to a lesser extent Liverpool), they haven't had anyone of note or pedigree take the job.
I think we overestimate the level of stature/desirability the Celtic managerial position brings nowadays. Celtic might be huge in Scotland and throughout the larger UK, but honestly from the perspective of an outsider, no one takes that league seriously anymore.
I'm underwhelmed by this hiring but of course I'm willing to give it a shot. I guess my biggest concern is RD doesn't share the same player pedigree (Vieira) nor the coaching pedigree (Dome; being Pep's assistant for years qualifies as pedigree in my book) which our previous two managers did. I also don't see him as being any kind of draw to a big-name DP because of the aforementioned reasons.
Again I'm hoping for the best but I don't believe we will get past the first round of the CCL and I think we'll come to see him clearly as a grade or two below both Vieira and Dome
I've watched a fair bit of both leagues, and IMO they are about the same quality. But I think that's quite irrelevant, because coaching in the MLS seems to require different things than in, say, Scotland. In the latter, the first seven months of a season do really matter.
I don't disagree with the idea that RD does not have superstar drawing power. But I don't think either PV or DT had big-name DP drawing power. Some of our younger guys did peripherally mention that they appreciated the opportunity to learn from a former player like PV, and I am sure others enjoyed learning DT's advanced tactics. But no top tier superstar would have been drawn to New York to play for either of them. In fact, Villa seemed to clash with DT which suggested there could have been a lack of respect or trust, etc. With some exceptions depending on a prospective player in question (more so for PV based upon his player pedigree), I don't see a big difference in drawing ability amongst the three.
I think we are overrating how big of a deal the name or stature of a manager is in signing players. Sure, guys like Tata and others will attract certain players just on their name alone, but I get the sense that most players, when they care about a manager, is about their style of play and/or personality. Not because they are a big name. Then you throw in all the other variables such as available playing time, league stature, club stature, chance to win trophies, how they like the city, perhaps potential teammates.
I don't think Bob Bradley was necessarily a big name outside the US and he brought in Vela and Rossi (I'm sure there may have been a slight new club in LA bump there). Vanney definitely wasn't a big name when he brought in Giovinco. I doubt Sigi Schmid was a big name when Lodeiro came, and while Schmetzer has had success in MLS, is he really a big name that attracted Ruidiaz?
You nailed my point with your last sentence. I agree that PV and Dome didn't have superstar drawing power when it came to attracting DPs, but as you mentioned, there would be "some exceptions". With RD, I don't see any "exceptions".
NYCFC announces Ronny Deila as new head coach
NYCFC has found its next head coach. After parting ways with Domenec Torrent in November, the club announced in a press release Monday that former Celtic FC manager Ronny Deila has been appointed a…
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Celtic and Rangers have an international appea regardless of the crap league. Same with Ajax or Olympiakos etc.
The three biggest names we've ever had all signed for us under a manager with essentially zero brand recognition outside of Utah.
I've no idea what in$pired them to $till join, but maybe $omeone ha$ an idea.
Maybe pirlo and lampard, but I don't think Villa signed purely for money reasons. I think he wanted to be part of a new team, and he had ambitions elsewhere too (a la QBFC and his academy stuff.)
That alone attributes to him finding NYC an attractive destination - I can see others too thinking that in the future.
Agreed about your last part. We're not Salt Lake or Portland -- New York City absolutely has an appeal for overseas players no matter who the coach is.
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New York City FC Names Nick Cushing as Assistant Coach
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Have we ever announced Assistant Coaches before?
I can't quite remember, but I wouldn't be too surprised as I think when Vieira and Torrent were hired in the past, they just brought their own staff with, kind of "at one time" so there were many new assistant coaches being "hired" at once.New York City FC Names Nick Cushing as Assistant Coach | New York City FC
New York City FC Names Nick Cushing as Assistant Coach
Have we ever announced Assistant Coaches before?
I hope that somewhere there's a Man City Women's forum full of people furious that they're now just a feeder club for NYCFC.
New York City FC Names Nick Cushing as Assistant Coach | New York City FC
New York City FC Names Nick Cushing as Assistant Coach
Have we ever announced Assistant Coaches before?
im assuming because he was the coach of the womens team, even though the dude will join pretty late, after Feb 2 game.
for Dome and PV i think they did an article naming all of them in one piece. just like an FYI piece though not in detail with quotes etc.
Could be interesting what the end game here is with this hiring though. Seeing as if Ronny were to leave or get sacked Cushing would be staying because he’s not essentially part of the team RD brought with him like PV and Dome.New York City FC Names Nick Cushing as Assistant Coach | New York City FC
New York City FC Names Nick Cushing as Assistant Coach
Have we ever announced Assistant Coaches before?
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