I just don't think that having a mascot moniker would have any effect on whether others know that the team exists. That's a marketing issue, popularity issue, and a sports/city saturation issue, not a team name issue. I don't think that officially changing our name to the New York City King Kong Pigeons or whatever you may choose would save you from having to explain to outsiders who or what the team is if the other issues are preventing the exposure. With that said, having an unofficial mascot, like the pigeons or the tokens (I like it
Ulrich) becomes a fun and convenient (and easier) reference for the insiders, and provides some additional branding variety to market to the insiders. I don't think that anything official gets you much more than that.
I just don't think that having a mascot moniker would have any effect on whether others know that the team exists. That's a marketing issue, popularity issue, and a sports/city saturation issue, not a team name issue. I don't think that officially changing our name to the New York City King Kong Pigeons or whatever you may choose would save you from having to explain to outsiders who or what the team is if the other issues are preventing the exposure. With that said, having an unofficial mascot, like the pigeons or the tokens (I like it
I guess New York should give back pizza too.
Perfect for a team differentiating itself from it's suburban counterpart.
I'm not disagreeing with your statement, because I loathe the idea of the pigeon, but if we want to stick with stuff tied to NYC, then we have a bunch of items invented in NYC to choose from:
You have made this criticism multiple times previously, and I don't get it at all. I understand that an opinion about nicknames don't have to make sense, but you are very specific about this and keep repeating it so it seems like it has meaning to you and I can't figure it out at all.
Ulrich for creative research and a bit of fun, but those ideas are patently ridiculous. The "Liberty" is already taken, and as a concept is hardly unique to NYC anyway. What? The Emperors? The Broadways? The Tanmany Hall boys?
Patently ridiculous???You have made this criticism multiple times previously, and I don't get it at all. I understand that an opinion about nicknames don't have to make sense, but you are very specific about this and keep repeating it so it seems like it has meaning to you and I can't figure it out at all.
Almost no team nicknames are "unique" to their city or state. I suppose Baltimore Oriole is one, because it's the name of an actual specific bird named after the same family as the city. And NY is the only state in the country with Dutch history so I suppose the Knickerbockers qualifies as unique. The Texans makes no sense outside of Texas but don't have to be in Houston. After that uniqueness doesn't really exist in team nicknames, official or organic. Even where there are strong associations it is not unique. The 76ers could be in Boston; the Pacers could be in Charlotte; the Fire could be in San Francisco. You could do that with basically every other US or Canadian sports team. If they even have a connection (and many don't, or only made sense in a prior location) it's not unique.
Coming at it in the other direction, what are some "unique" features of NYC that would work as a nickname? Credit to
Look. You don't like "pigeons" and you don't have to justify it. This is just a mental itch and if you want to help scratch it for me with a bit more explanation go ahead, or not.
You have made this criticism multiple times previously, and I don't get it at all. I understand that an opinion about nicknames don't have to make sense, but you are very specific about this and keep repeating it so it seems like it has meaning to you and I can't figure it out at all.
Almost no team nicknames are "unique" to their city or state. I suppose Baltimore Oriole is one, because it's the name of an actual specific bird named after the same family as the city. And NY is the only state in the country with Dutch history so I suppose the Knickerbockers qualifies as unique. The Texans makes no sense outside of Texas but don't have to be in Houston. After that uniqueness doesn't really exist in team nicknames, official or organic. Even where there are strong associations it is not unique. The 76ers could be in Boston; the Pacers could be in Charlotte; the Fire could be in San Francisco. You could do that with basically every other US or Canadian sports team. If they even have a connection (and many don't, or only made sense in a prior location) it's not unique.
Coming at it in the other direction, what are some "unique" features of NYC that would work as a nickname? Credit to
Look. You don't like "pigeons" and you don't have to justify it. This is just a mental itch and if you want to help scratch it for me with a bit more explanation go ahead, or not.
Soccer already has something in that realm of thought with the Wanderers. We have a semi-permanent home at YS, but we hosted a Cup match at Jack Coffey Field. The team practices in Westchester, the academy in Queens. The team FO is in Manhattan.
