#VieriaOut or #VieriaIn
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If they know we are going to attack then they don't have to worry about us bunkering and counter attacking. That makes us more predictable.
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Kjbert - doesn’t Everton have a lot of worthless salaries on the books? Who will they send us for free from their big summer signing spree?
I'll take one Icelandic midfielder please.
Ok, fair enough. You do have some sort of inside info so I’ll take your word on it.
What would you say it hinges on then? If it’s player acquisition, then he’s got to be on thin ice but on the positive side of the line:
Year 1 was atrocious
Year 2 was marginally better but far too many whiffs
Year 3 was better with both some gems but also some highly questionable contract extensions and the CYA DP signing, and to a high degree leaving Villa to carry the load and not addressing a #2 scorer.
Year 4 will be critical since nearly all of year 1 will be jettisoned and there won’t be any excuses for Kreis-influenced roster quality
Is a successful Academy his barometer? Is it how many kids are signed as HG? The only way the academy could be deemed successful, that helps CFG, is by signing players to either bolster the 1st team, or to be transferred out to bolster the Cap’s GAM Account. The potential is there, but we’ve only gotten 1 player so far after 3 years, more a result of only starting with a u14 team and not all ages, but that’s still a decision that was made.
Is it the overall success of the team? Will finishing high during the regular season outweigh spectacular crashes out of the USOpen Cup or MLS Cup? If the former, then he’s fine, if the latter, then he should be prepared to dust off his CV after Sunday if a miracle can’t be performed.
Is it a combination of all of those, which would definitely not place him in the upper eschelon of Sporting Heads? Or does he have a guaranteed contract and it’s all moot?
I wouldn't say I'm Reyna's biggest fan, but there's no doubting that he's overseen three years of definitive progress over the team, that's seen us become the second best team in the league, with clear and obvious room to improve next season through our vacant DP spot.
Before anyone tries to crucify me, there have been undeniable fuck-ups - the roster in our first season was horrendous, our DP usage has been inefficient at best in our third season. But regardless, under Reyna we've brought in cornerstone players like Ring, Herrera, Chanot and Mata who have taken us to second place in the league overall. I'm not happy with our one game in the playoffs this year, but I'm extremely happy with the 32 games prior to that, and for that reason I'm bullish on both Vieira and Reyna.
If you think management decisions should be based on the three playoff games we've played in our history to date (or on the 15 year-old prospects that the GM happens to be related to) then OK. Clearly you value different things than I do. Seems a bit kneejerk to me, but that's your prerogative. To me, long-term, this team looks to be trending the right way. I'd be loath to shake things up while the graph keeps pointing upwards. To me, this project is more than just 180 minutes against Columbus Crew, or some 15 year-old kid who happens to be the GM's son. I've watched this team progress week on week, and I don't want us to throw the baby out with the bathwater because some of our fans are too used to cherry-picking EPL glory-hunting every Saturday morning to comprehend a team that doesn't waltz to victory every week.
This shit is hard. We're in it for the long haul. Man the fuck up before you start whining about the management.
Before anyone tries to crucify me, there have been undeniable fuck-ups - the roster in our first season was horrendous, our DP usage has been inefficient at best in our third season. But regardless, under Reyna we've brought in cornerstone players like Ring, Herrera, Chanot and Mata who have taken us to second place in the league overall. I'm not happy with our one game in the playoffs this year, but I'm extremely happy with the 32 games prior to that, and for that reason I'm bullish on both Vieira and Reyna.
If you think management decisions should be based on the three playoff games we've played in our history to date (or on the 15 year-old prospects that the GM happens to be related to) then OK. Clearly you value different things than I do. Seems a bit kneejerk to me, but that's your prerogative. To me, long-term, this team looks to be trending the right way. I'd be loath to shake things up while the graph keeps pointing upwards. To me, this project is more than just 180 minutes against Columbus Crew, or some 15 year-old kid who happens to be the GM's son. I've watched this team progress week on week, and I don't want us to throw the baby out with the bathwater because some of our fans are too used to cherry-picking EPL glory-hunting every Saturday morning to comprehend a team that doesn't waltz to victory every week.
This shit is hard. We're in it for the long haul. Man the fuck up before you start whining about the management.
I can get down with all of this except that, despite our youth as a club, we need to be in the win now mentality. Villa isn't just the best DP in the league, he's the best ever because of how badly he wants it. How much more does he have in the tank? Two years at this level? I hope so. When he deteriorates, we will take a step back for sure, no matter who his replacement is. I just don't see any of the DPs with his talent giving it 100% like he does. Need to win a playoff series or get to a cup final next year. Maybe 2019...
I guess your line of thinking would work if we could stockpile great players, if we could have more than 3 players making that much and hadn't already wasted one of them. Do you think it was a good use of a DP slot to sign a guy, play him out of position for a year, such that we only had 1 of our 3 DPs playing full time and well in his best position, and our window to win with that DP is closing, and our second, third, and fourth scoring threats were below par for playoff teams? Because that's the argument on the table. Or challenge any of the elements I added. Tell me Villa's window isn't closing or the lack of quality scorers behind him did not matter, or whatever.
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What if he didn't go to run US Soccer but were fired? That's a no agenda question. I don't pretend to know on this one.
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I'm sure this is true to a large extent. But I have a feeling that little Gio wouldn't feel as much pressure to play for NYCFC and instead go overseas if his father wasn't still employed at NYCFC.
And when I talk about feeling pressure, I don't necessarily mean pressure that Claudio is putting on, but perhaps that Gio is putting on himself.
I wouldn't wish that on NYCFC. Lots of really slow players. We don't want Rooney but they'd let him walk at season's end. Mirallas would fit the bill but he wants to go back to Greece.
A guy like James McCarthy could become available. Mo Besic.
I wouldn't want any of them. Maybe Mirallas but he wouldn't fit in the locker room.
I'm on record as saying that I don't believe he will wear an NYCFC first team kit at this stage. I don't feel anyone associated with the Club or the family feel any pressure whatsoever. If it is in Gio's best long term future to sign with the Club, he will. If it's in his best future to go overseas, he will. He's just a kid guys.
Despite the salt from our friend across Stanley Park, here, I decided to take a look at Transfermarkt to see if there actually are any members of the Everton squad who would make good DPs after relegation.
I might take Aaron Lennon, whose theoretical market value is 5M euro. He's been often disappointing, but he's probably faster than most of our squad.
James McCarthy is probably too expensive (15M euro), but I'm sure he'd be useful if not particularly exciting. He's only 26, though, so I'm sure he'd rather stay in Europe in some manner, even in the Championship or a lower-table Prem team.
Shani Tarashaj might benefit from coming "down" to MLS for a while. He's valued at 2M euro and would probably be a significant upgrade on Sean Okoli at the secondary striker position.
Regarding Besic, I'm honestly not sure he's much better than Alexander Ring.
I'd take Nikola Vlasic, I think, although I need to see more of him in better circumstances.
I'd take Tom Davies and Dominic Calvert-Lewin, though I'm sure they'd get better offers.
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Aaron Lennon would be a very good MLS player. He is fast, plays defense, can go 1 v 1. But he's a RedBull quality player. He's essentially Jonathan Lewis. I wouldn't make him a DP. But I love the guy and appreciate his work ethic.
McCarthy is headed to Celtic. He's Alexander Ring anyway.
I had forgotten about Tarashaj. They couldn't offload him this past summer.
Besic isn't very good.
Vlasic and Davies and DCL aren't going anywhere. They're the future. They're all 21 or younger.
I could talk myself into a Mirallas. He could play LW or RW or even as a Striker. He likes to cut in from the left and he will score goals. He'll put in a good shift if he's motivated. But he's mercurial
he's a great 8 mate, i rate him 8/8
