If Claudio is here because of Gio that's one of the stupidest things the club could possibly do. How old was Gio when he was hired, 11? What's the success rate of high potential players identified at that young of an age that go on to become talented professionals? I'd be willing to bet the percentage is in the low single digits at best.
#VieriaOut or #VieriaIn
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Who said anything about him being hired because of Gio? I assume you’re dove-tailing this onto my posts from yesterday? I bet Reyna was hired because he’s MCFC Alum, was heading up USSoccers development, and was a local guy. His retention is a factor of his success against what is expected of him. I’m not sure his success has necessarily been truly successful, and if deemed that by the overlords, then a feather in his cap at this point is possibly his son signing/not signing, but as K Kjbert said, and I don’t doubt him due to his alluded to connections, Gio’s future has no bearing.
You could make a very good case that Claudio was the right man for the job, before you even got to the fact that he played for MCFC. He's local. He was the greatest player in US history before Landon came along. He headed up USSF Development. He has business experience.
Ulrich is spot on. Perfect fit and he fell into CFG's lap. Maybe Garth Lagerway would have been better for the job long term, but there aren't many more qualified guys than Claudio
Ulrich is spot on. Perfect fit and he fell into CFG's lap. Maybe Garth Lagerway would have been better for the job long term, but there aren't many more qualified guys than Claudio
Reyna started New York Soccer Club, which is one of the best academies in New York state. He was a youth technical director at USSF. I think he was here really to build an academy first and be a sporting director of the first team second.
It seems that Kreis and CFG battled heads with the roster creation in 2015.
In 2016, it looks like it was Vieira, Reyna, and CFG.
It seems that Kreis and CFG battled heads with the roster creation in 2015.
In 2016, it looks like it was Vieira, Reyna, and CFG.
My post is not about whether or not Maxis is a good DP. You told KJ that we shouldnt discuss whether Maxi would be better at another position because thats not what position he played this year. Its a provincial small minded comment. If we cant discuss or speculate about that, this forum has no point.
Don't mischaracterize meand rewrite the discussion.
KJ wrote:
So he's saying he's playing a 10 because he's our best option for that this year. When he was signed. As a DP. As a 10. He also says it's not his fault. So I answered on that exact basis:
I addressed Maxi's role -- this year -- as a 10 and as a newly signed DP. And answered the contention that it wasn't Maxi's fault. Maybe I'm wrong, but it was right on point as a response. And yes, I mocked, because I believe it's silly to judge his role this year -- which is what KJ addressed -- here on the basis of hypotheticals. Now, going back to your posts you are the one who brought up discussing Maxi's role in the future. That's a worthwhile discussion, since I think it is as certain as certain can be that he returns. But I didn't know you were authorized to speak for KJ. I also thought you were attempting to reshape the discussion in this thread which is about whether PV, and on an extended basis Reyna, deserve to come back based on -- this year and last year. Sorry I didn't cooperate with the thread jump. To the extent Maxi is relevant in this thread it is (1) did PV use him well, and (2) did Reyna do good job making him our DP signing. Which is what I stayed focused on. We have multiple threads debating the roster and individual players next year. Context.
PS: poor use of provincial.
Mark, if you feel you have to attack someones word choice to try to win an argument on the internet, you are probably better off not posting your post.
learn to make subs earlier....and if you dont trust them then get reyna to get you players you do trust
like whats the point of making subs when there is 5 mins left, just looks bad
like whats the point of making subs when there is 5 mins left, just looks bad
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Here's the thing. If Player X wasn't good enough to play in September, why is he good enough to play in early November? Our first sub was Okoli. I wasn't looking for McNamara or Shelton there, but why wasn't Okoli playing earlier in the fall if we was our target striker off the bench?
Yeah, really makes you wonder why Khiry got all those minutes at the end of the season if he was surplus to the subs on the bench? Can only imagine how much more of an impact Lewis would have had if he had received all of Khiry’s minutes those last few games - hed have had confidence and a better understanding of the game flow, err, except that he seemed pretty damn comfortable in the few minutes he was tossed.
That's the frustration with PV. I really thought Khiry would be the 1st off the bench last night because of all the time he's received in the last month or two. Yet, when push comes to shove he puts out Okoli and Pirlo? What is that?
Subs should have come in earlier and Lewis should have been the first one in somewhere around the 70-75 minute as a sub for Wallace or Harrison.
Shelton wasn't even on the bench. He was also not training on Friday. So maybe he's injured but maybe ...
He wasn’t on the injury report. Either a coaching decision because PV saw the light, or, err, that’s gotta be it because the transfer window isn’t open and his only marketability is to another MLS side.Shelton wasn't even on the bench. He was also not training on Friday. So maybe he's injured but maybe ...
Vieira Out for me
The continuing failure to self-criticize or blame himself for problems (blamed the refs last night and said he wouldn’t have changed anything about his approach).
The inexplicable revolving door in and out of the squad. Mix, JLew, Khiry getting late season minutes but then disappearing in the playoffs. Throwing Okoli and Lewis back in late after not seasoning them properly all year long.
The embarrassing Pirlo sub. It would have been a fine idea since we struggled linking back to front, but Andrea retired last year.
Constantly waiting too long to sub in fresh legs. What was the point of giving Lewis 4 minutes to do something.
The failure to develop alternate tactics and a plan B. Villa and Maxi will be a year older next year. The Villa creates or I’m clueless approach is going to get less and less effective.
These are all things that have persisted over 2 years. I have no illusions that CFG would ever fire him since he’s a very professional guy and a part of their family. But if he leaves for an opportunity somewhere else it won’t be a big loss for me. Didn’t mean for this to turn so ranty I was really happy with the fight the team showed last night.
The continuing failure to self-criticize or blame himself for problems (blamed the refs last night and said he wouldn’t have changed anything about his approach).
The inexplicable revolving door in and out of the squad. Mix, JLew, Khiry getting late season minutes but then disappearing in the playoffs. Throwing Okoli and Lewis back in late after not seasoning them properly all year long.
The embarrassing Pirlo sub. It would have been a fine idea since we struggled linking back to front, but Andrea retired last year.
Constantly waiting too long to sub in fresh legs. What was the point of giving Lewis 4 minutes to do something.
The failure to develop alternate tactics and a plan B. Villa and Maxi will be a year older next year. The Villa creates or I’m clueless approach is going to get less and less effective.
These are all things that have persisted over 2 years. I have no illusions that CFG would ever fire him since he’s a very professional guy and a part of their family. But if he leaves for an opportunity somewhere else it won’t be a big loss for me. Didn’t mean for this to turn so ranty I was really happy with the fight the team showed last night.
It's fine to be #VieiraOut, but if you actually think he will be removed as coach this off season you're wrong. Only way he isn't our coach next season if it takes a position in Europe.
yes the blaming refs wont go well with PRO and can screw us more next year as well ( even if he is right)
The only way blaming refs works is to have proof like Petke and not simply be flippant by putting them down.
Yeah I am hoping that he's already been promised to some other team and PV didn't see any point in including him now that his future is elsewhere.
I agree with you that he'll be back, but I do wonder what European teams see in him if he is constantly making mistakes and being outdone in a lesser league. To me, he's shown to be pretty good tactically and I think he teaches his system well, but his game management leaves a lot to be desired, which is arguably the most important attribute for a manager.
