It was strange because it was given after SJ ran to go get the ball from out of bounds. If anything he was saving time.
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The fourth official and the first assistant on the bench sideline and the ones that get most of the yelling from me regarding calls since they are the closets ones during the match for the most point. I usually go:
- Do you want to be associated with that idiot?
- You have eyes, you have a radio, tell him what you saw?
- You're all going to get demoted if you allow this crap to continue.
I think I know what led to the phantom card, but not why it was rescinded, and again benefit from the combo of the radio call and TV re-watch. TV doesn't show what SJ did that led to the phantom card, but radio described it well. But first jump back. In the short period between the 2 NYC goals the ref warned Johnson. There was a goal kick where the ball went beyond the end line inside the box but ricocheted out to the corner. A ball kid ran to get it and offered a reserve ball to ?Lopez? I think. He waved the kid off, slow walked to the ball, and then kicked the ball he retrieved about 1/10 of the way back to Johnson. The ref made it clear to NYC and Johnson to speed things up. Fast forward to the phantom yellow. The ball kid next to goal is on the right when facing the goal. The ball in play goes over the end line and bounces away from goal to the other side. Johnson went after it, and was already on that side, but arguably it was faster for him to swing back to the other side and get the reserve ball from the ball kid. Walking after a stray ball rather than getting one from the ball kid is a time honored GK trick, and duplicated the earlier refusal of a ball in favor of a slow walk to get it. That's what the ref reacted to. The stadium announcer definitely announced a card.
I second this question - and wondering who that guy is that greets the players outside Gate 2? he's only person that isn't behind the barricade
I know them both. I'll respect their privacy and not disclose their names.
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Not interested in names...at least I'm not...more curious about the relationship they have w the team.
I said it before and I'll say it again... when I grow up, I want to be LionNYC.
Friends/business relationships with the players.
You're not gonna like this. Nobody here will. But that top gif, taken from the BTS video, puts the ref in a better light.
I've never heard anybody say this -- announcer, analyst, coach, official, player -- but the rule that getting ball does not prevent a foul is, at best, haphazardly recognized inside the box. I've seen it over and over. A defender gets the ball, and sweeps the attacker's feet, and no foul is called on plays that are fouls 95% of the time anywhere else. Until I saw the BTS video, I didn't think Kappelhoff got any ball. But he did. You can see it here too. Ref can still call a foul, and sometimes they do. The inconsistency is frustrating. It's also weird that you never hear an anyone say this. And you can argue a foul should be a foul whether or not it's inside the box. But this is the way games are called, at least a substantial part of the time, and not just in MLS.
I agree with you about that tendency inside the box, but to be clear, the defender didn't touch the ball on the Herrera play. The frame rate on the crappy GIF maker I used leaves that a bit unclear, but the actual Behind the Scenes video leaves zero doubt. 8:55 if you want to watch.
And even if they were applying the "inside the box" discretion because a call would have a greater impact on the game, I wish that they would have used similar "second yellow card discretion" when deciding that an accidental foot stamp (or if it was the dissent, dissent) warranted a monumental game-changing decision.
I checked out the video. It was in the 60th minute. A Chicago cross went out on the far side of goal and bounced about 2/3 the way to the flag. Johnson started to walk after it and then turned back to look for someone to throw him the ball. The video then cuts to replay, but you can hear the whistle within 1-2 seconds after that. I remember looking down at that time, and he was looking around actively trying to get a ball. The total elapsed time from the cross going out to the card being issued was 5-6 seconds.
You know what, you're right. Weird thing to me is I first mistakenly noticed the Kappelhoff touch on the BTS, watching full screen. But looking again after your post, it's a YH touch that squirts the ball just before the sweep.
NEVER MIND.
The Gif quality is absolute shit. Watch the Behind the Scenes video in 1080 and you'll see clear as day it's a foul. The defender goes over the ball, misses it, and fouls Herrera.
Watching the BTS, I did NOT like seeing that big ice pack on Villa's knee at the end - no matter how cute it was to see Luca playing with his shinguards. I suppose if there were a real issue, he would not have been standing there giving an interview, but nonetheless...
Yeah, I tried to use my usual GIF maker, but it won't handle YouTube videos over 15 minutes.
In my defense the freaking printer wasn't working.
The Gif quality is absolute shit. Watch the Behind the Scenes video in 1080 and you'll see clear as day it's a foul. The defender goes over the ball, misses it, and fouls Herrera.
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