Draft Thread (Expansion/Waiver/Re-Entry)

[JayH]

There may be some thread overlap, but with next week's draft week upon us, we can fire away on draft specific news/analysis here. Below I have copied relevant dates and times as recited by NYCFC.

Sunday, Dec. 11

• Half-Day Trade Window from 9 a.m.-12 p.m. ET
• No trades involving players will be permitted after 12 p.m. ET up until the conclusion of the Expansion Draft

Monday, Dec. 12

• Expansion Draft Protected Player List and eligible Free Agents made public

Tuesday, Dec. 13

• Expansion Draft held at 2 p.m. ET
• Beginning at 5 p.m. ET, Free Agents may engage in negotiations with all MLS clubs.

Wednesday, Dec. 14

• List of players eligible for selection in the Waiver Draft made public

Thursday, Dec. 15

• Waiver Draft held at 2 p.m. ET
• Beginning at 5 p.m. ET, clubs may no longer sign or trade their own Re-Entry eligible players (player-trade blackout window)
• List of players available in Stage One of the Re-Entry Draft made public

Friday, Dec. 16

• Stage One of the Re-Entry Draft held at 3 p.m. ET

Wednesday, Dec. 21

• Starting at 11 a.m. ET, clubs may no longer sign or trade their own Re-Entry eligible players (player-trade blackout window)
• List of available players in Stage Two of the Re-Entry Draft made public

Thursday, Dec. 22

• Stage Two of the Re-Entry Draft held at 3 p.m. ET

 

[joe]

Half-Day Trade Window from 9 a.m.-12 p.m. ET

Mix to Atlanta for Almiron, straight up.

 

[Midas Mulligan]

Mix to Atlanta for Almiron, straight up.

Atlanta should take him. And I won't be surprised if they do, frankly.

He will fit in well there in a midfield with Guardado and Almiron. As a matter of fact, I bet they will boss most games to the extent that there almost certainly shitty defense won't matter too much.

 

[Kjbert]

The club is banking on a deal involving Atlanta

 

[sbrylski]

The club is banking on a deal involving Atlanta

Dude WTF. Their roster will be better than ours two years later.

F: Jones
AM: Villalba, Almiron, Carleton
M: Guardado, Mix

That's amazing. And pre-expansion draft.

 

[Taurus]

Dude WTF. Their roster will be better than ours two years later.

F: Jones
AM: Villalba, Almiron, Carleton
M: Guardado, Mix

That's amazing. And pre-expansion draft.

To asses a roster using "Live Table" methodology only gives one heartburn. Let's take a look after the Winter window.

 

[joe]

Dude WTF. Their roster will be better than ours two years later.

F: Jones
AM: Villalba, Almiron, Carleton
M: Guardado, Mix

That's amazing. And pre-expansion draft.

Expansion draft might make them worse, tbh. Feast your eyes on this bounty:

Round Orlando City NYCFC
1. Donovan Ricketts (Portland) Ned Grabavoy (Salt Lake)
2. Tony Cacio (Colorado) Patrick Mullins (New England)
3. Jalil Anibaba (Seattle) Jason Hernandez (San Jose)
4. Pedro Robeiro (Philadelphia) Daniel Lovitz (Toronto)
5. Lewis Neal (DC) Tony Taylor (New England)
6. Jair Arrieta (Columbus) Mehdi Ballouchy (Vancouver)
7. Heath Pearce (Montreal) George John (Dallas)
8. Danny Mwanga (Columbus) Thomas McNamara (DC)
9. Mark Sherrod (Houston) Sal Zizzo (Kansas City)
10. Eric Gehrig (Columbus) Chris Wingert (Salt Lake)

 

[Gotham Gator]

Expansion draft might make them worse, tbh. Feast your eyes on this bounty:

Round Orlando City NYCFC
1. Donovan Ricketts (Portland) Ned Grabavoy (Salt Lake)
2. Tony Cacio (Colorado) Patrick Mullins (New England)
3. Jalil Anibaba (Seattle) Jason Hernandez (San Jose)
4. Pedro Robeiro (Philadelphia) Daniel Lovitz (Toronto)
5. Lewis Neal (DC) Tony Taylor (New England)
6. Jair Arrieta (Columbus) Mehdi Ballouchy (Vancouver)
7. Heath Pearce (Montreal) George John (Dallas)
8. Danny Mwanga (Columbus) Thomas McNamara (DC)
9. Mark Sherrod (Houston) Sal Zizzo (Kansas City)
10. Eric Gehrig (Columbus) Chris Wingert (Salt Lake)

We came out of that one a lot better than Orlando, that's for sure.

 

[sbrylski]

Expansion draft might make them worse, tbh. Feast your eyes on this bounty:

Round Orlando City NYCFC
1. Donovan Ricketts (Portland) Ned Grabavoy (Salt Lake)
2. Tony Cacio (Colorado) Patrick Mullins (New England)
3. Jalil Anibaba (Seattle) Jason Hernandez (San Jose)
4. Pedro Robeiro (Philadelphia) Daniel Lovitz (Toronto)
5. Lewis Neal (DC) Tony Taylor (New England)
6. Jair Arrieta (Columbus) Mehdi Ballouchy (Vancouver)
7. Heath Pearce (Montreal) George John (Dallas)
8. Danny Mwanga (Columbus) Thomas McNamara (DC)
9. Mark Sherrod (Houston) Sal Zizzo (Kansas City)
10. Eric Gehrig (Columbus) Chris Wingert (Salt Lake)

True, but if this article is any indication, the talent level might be a bit higher this time around:

http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2016...raft-2016-atlanta-minnesota-united-mock-draft

They had bloggers for each team send them a protected list. I'm sure it'll go down a bit differently, but if even half of these picks are right, they'll get 2 starters (actually good ones) each out of it.

 

[JCMore]

Expansion draft might make them worse, tbh. Feast your eyes on this bounty:

Round Orlando City NYCFC
1. Donovan Ricketts (Portland) Ned Grabavoy (Salt Lake)
2. Tony Cacio (Colorado) Patrick Mullins (New England)
3. Jalil Anibaba (Seattle) Jason Hernandez (San Jose)
4. Pedro Robeiro (Philadelphia) Daniel Lovitz (Toronto)
5. Lewis Neal (DC) Tony Taylor (New England)
6. Jair Arrieta (Columbus) Mehdi Ballouchy (Vancouver)
7. Heath Pearce (Montreal) George John (Dallas)
8. Danny Mwanga (Columbus) Thomas McNamara (DC)
9. Mark Sherrod (Houston) Sal Zizzo (Kansas City)
10. Eric Gehrig (Columbus) Chris Wingert (Salt Lake)

I find it quite amusing at how low T-Mac was on this list and that he is now the only player still left on our roster

 

[joe]

True, but if this article is any indication, the talent level might be a bit higher this time around:

http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2016...raft-2016-atlanta-minnesota-united-mock-draft

They had bloggers for each team send them a protected list. I'm sure it'll go down a bit differently, but if even half of these picks are right, they'll get 2 starters (actually good ones) each out of it.

Yeah, look at how much mileage we've gotten out of arguing over NYCFC's protected list. Like, in what world will SKC not protect Zusi?

 

[Kjbert]

Dude WTF. Their roster will be better than ours two years later.

F: Jones
AM: Villalba, Almiron, Carleton
M: Guardado, Mix

That's amazing. And pre-expansion draft.

Let's see what their defense looks like. But they are making investments, that's for sure.

 

[joe]

I find it quite amusing at how low T-Mac was on this list and that he is now the only player still left on our roster

Daniel Lovitz!

 

[Kjbert]

Yeah, look at how much mileage we've gotten out of arguing over NYCFC's protected list. Like, in what world will SKC not protect Zusi?

I can see a scenario where they don't. These guys run on a tight budget and they just gave Feilhaber a raise. Zusi was out of favor with the club towards the end of the season and he is on high wages (for them). They would be happy to offload his $700,000 salary and spread it amongst two players who are equally as good. They played him like a utility player last year - RB, CAM, CM, RM, RW. He's their version of James Milner.

 

[Ulrich]

Expansion draft might make them worse, tbh. Feast your eyes on this bounty:

Round Orlando City NYCFC
1. Donovan Ricketts (Portland) Ned Grabavoy (Salt Lake)
2. Tony Cacio (Colorado) Patrick Mullins (New England)
3. Jalil Anibaba (Seattle) Jason Hernandez (San Jose)
4. Pedro Robeiro (Philadelphia) Daniel Lovitz (Toronto)
5. Lewis Neal (DC) Tony Taylor (New England)
6. Jair Arrieta (Columbus) Mehdi Ballouchy (Vancouver)
7. Heath Pearce (Montreal) George John (Dallas)
8. Danny Mwanga (Columbus) Thomas McNamara (DC)
9. Mark Sherrod (Houston) Sal Zizzo (Kansas City)
10. Eric Gehrig (Columbus) Chris Wingert (Salt Lake)

George John....

 

[Kjbert]

It's fun to talk about what that draft yielded us two years out. We turned Mullins into GAM, an International Spot and Max Chanot. We turned Sal Zizzo into a loan for Ryan Meara. I forget what we turned Daniel Lovitz into, maybe GAM?

 

[joe]

It's fun to talk about what that draft yielded us two years out. We turned Mullins into GAM, an International Spot and Max Chanot. We turned Sal Zizzo into a loan for Ryan Meara. I forget what we turned Daniel Lovitz into, maybe GAM?

Unspecified allocation money: http://www.nycfc.com/post/2014/12/10/daniel-lovitz-moves-toronto-fc

 

[Kjbert]

Thank you joe

 

[Tom in Fairfield CT]

Expansion draft might make them worse, tbh. Feast your eyes on this bounty:

Round Orlando City NYCFC
1. Donovan Ricketts (Portland) Ned Grabavoy (Salt Lake)
2. Tony Cacio (Colorado) Patrick Mullins (New England)
3. Jalil Anibaba (Seattle) Jason Hernandez (San Jose)
4. Pedro Robeiro (Philadelphia) Daniel Lovitz (Toronto)
5. Lewis Neal (DC) Tony Taylor (New England)
6. Jair Arrieta (Columbus) Mehdi Ballouchy (Vancouver)
7. Heath Pearce (Montreal) George John (Dallas)
8. Danny Mwanga (Columbus) Thomas McNamara (DC)
9. Mark Sherrod (Houston) Sal Zizzo (Kansas City)
10. Eric Gehrig (Columbus) Chris Wingert (Salt Lake)

We Got Everyone We Wanted!!!!!!!

 

[Ulrich]

It's fun to talk about what that draft yielded us two years out. We turned Mullins into GAM, an International Spot and Max Chanot. We turned Sal Zizzo into a loan for Ryan Meara. I forget what we turned Daniel Lovitz into, maybe GAM?

Ah yes, Meara was a monster pickup with his gaffe in Chicago.... man that draft was worse than a bag of rocks.... the quality of players available was just so bad two years ago and the guy giddy with his picks set us back from the get-go.....