Mix Future Thread: Mix Diskerud is close to moving to IFK Goteborg

Wow. Didn't realize you saw his contract. Why have you been holding out on us?
Yep. I was sitting next to him when he signed it. I also scored high on reading between the lines and basic logic.
 
His contract was with MLS, as all players, including dp's, contracts are.
For DP's MLS writes the checks to the players, with the club/league settling up on the difference on the back end. Not all DP's are fully funded by the team they play for, as I know Dempsey's transfer fee was paid for at least in part by the league after the clubs voted he would bring enough into the league to justify the purchase, i'm sure some others have similar.
Mix was under contract with MLS. I've been told by someone in management in the Revs organization that I still talk to that contracts like his (Dp's etc.) have geographic restrictions on it, and very likely did not even mention NYCFC. It may have said something like "must be assigned to a club which trains and plays within XX miles of residence" or similar language. So not an actual no-trade clause, but effectively the same thing.
NYCFC's buyout was simply to get him off their books and free up the cap space. They did not make a payout to Mix*, although the league may eventually do so depending on what terms they can come to with Mix and his new club.

*My speculation based on my the limited information I have.
 
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Yep. I was sitting next to him when he signed it. I also scored high on reading between the lines and basic logic.


Reading between the lines - is that a legal term that you speak of?

Because you're wrong in your "reading between the lines" analysis. Just like everyone else - from Chris Wingert to Sebastian Giovinco, Mix has a contract with MLS. I don't know if MLS has voided that contract or not, but his contract was with MLS.
 
Reading between the lines - is that a legal term that you speak of?

Because you're wrong in your "reading between the lines" analysis. Just like everyone else - from Chris Wingert to Sebastian Giovinco, Mix has a contract with MLS. I don't know if MLS has voided that contract or not, but his contract was with MLS.
No one is disputing his contract is through MLS, but his contract was to play for only NYCFC. You can bet that Lampard, Pirlo, and Villa also have contracts that stipulate they play for NYCFC, also known as no-trade clauses. Dos Santos most likely has he same deal with LA, he plays for them or no one (unless he agrees to it).
 
No one is disputing his contract is through MLS, but his contract was to play for only NYCFC. You can bet that Lampard, Pirlo, and Villa also have contracts that stipulate they play for NYCFC, also known as no-trade clauses. Dos Santos most likely has he same deal with LA, he plays for them or no one (unless he agrees to it).


Here is where we disagree. If that is the case, then MLS (the Krafts, Hunts, Anshultz, etc.) are opening themselves up to a massive lawsuit. The embodiment of Single Entity is that you have a contract with MLS. Whatever handshake agreements, winks, nods, whatever happen beyond that wouldn't stand up in a court of law.

Do you really think that cheap-ass Bob Kraft would open himself up to free agency and an uncapped league to accommodate Mix Freaking Diskerud?
 
Here is where we disagree. If that is the case, then MLS (the Krafts, Hunts, Anshultz, etc.) are opening themselves up to a massive lawsuit. The embodiment of Single Entity is that you have a contract with MLS. Whatever handshake agreements, winks, nods, whatever happen beyond that wouldn't stand up in a court of law.

Do you really think that cheap-ass Bob Kraft would open himself up to free agency and an uncapped league to accommodate Mix Freaking Diskerud?

I'm not sure I fully follow. If I'm a potential contract employee of a large corporation with 24 regional offices, I don't think there is anything preventing me from requesting placement in one particular regional office in my employment contract. But I'm not a labor attorney.
 
Here is where we disagree. If that is the case, then MLS (the Krafts, Hunts, Anshultz, etc.) are opening themselves up to a massive lawsuit. The embodiment of Single Entity is that you have a contract with MLS. Whatever handshake agreements, winks, nods, whatever happen beyond that wouldn't stand up in a court of law.

Do you really think that cheap-ass Bob Kraft would open himself up to free agency and an uncapped league to accommodate Mix Freaking Diskerud?
As JGarrettLieb mentioned above, Single Entity will not survive another lawsuit now that DP's have been added. The league opened themselves up via those roster rules and growth. Do the players want to initiate another suit, who knows? Do the players have the threat in their back pocket come CBA negotiations, they'd be stupid not to.

You cannot tell me with a straight face that Pirlo would ever sign a contract that places him at the mercy of the league with the potential to be traded to RSL, or Villa to Columbus, or Lampard to Dallas, or Dos Santos to New England.
 
http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/03/06/report-diskerud-close-loan-deal-mls-swedish-club

Mix Diskerud, a man without a club but still signed to MLS, could be closing in on a loan deal to Swedish side IFK Goteborg, according to published reports.

Sweden's Expressen was the first to report talks of a loan to Goteborg from MLS, which still holds the Norwegian-American midfielder's contract after he was bought out by New York City FC last week.

Because he was not put on waivers, as a result of a no-trade clause in his contract with NYCFC, Diskerud cannot be signed by another MLS club.

On Monday, ESPN FC's Jeff Carlisle reported – citing an unnamed source within MLS – that the deal could be completed within two days and that the loan would run only through August.
 
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Don't know if this has been already asked but since he was "bought out" by NYCFC but MLS still retains his rights with the no-trade clause (so we're the only team he can sign for hypothetically in MLS), if MLS agrees to a transfer in August to another club for a fee, where would the money go? 100% to the league or would we get a part?
 
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Don't know if this has been already asked but since he was "bought out" by NYCFC but MLS still retains his rights with the no-trade clause (so we're the only team he can sign for hypothetically in MLS), if MLS agrees to a transfer in August to another club for a fee, where would the money go? 100% to the league or would we get a part?
That's the great unknown. As 4 413Blue mentioned, he does not believe Mix got a lump sum, and instead he's getting regular paychecks (probably from an escrow/pool paid into by NYCFC). I'd hope that since NYCFC is effectively paying his salary, that we'd still get any transfer fee - the "buyout" was a cap/roster mechanism and not an evasion of the monetary commitment. But who knows? Maybe as part of initiating the buy-out, the club gives up the right to the transfer in exchange for the Cap relief. It's about as transparent as the Hudson River after a 3 day rain storm.
 
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That's the great unknown. As 4 413Blue mentioned, he does not believe Mix got a lump sum, and instead he's getting regular paychecks (probably from an escrow/pool paid into by NYCFC). I'd hope that since NYCFC is effectively paying his salary, that we'd still get any transfer fee - the "buyout" was a cap/roster mechanism and not an evasion of the monetary commitment. But who knows? Maybe as part of initiating the buy-out, the club gives up the right to the transfer in exchange for the Cap relief. It's about as transparent as the Hudson River after a 3 day rain storm.

When is the Hudson ever transparent?
 
http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/03/06/report-diskerud-close-loan-deal-mls-swedish-club

Mix Diskerud, a man without a club but still signed to MLS, could be closing in on a loan deal to Swedish side IFK Goteborg, according to published reports.

Sweden's Expressen was the first to report talks of a loan to Goteborg from MLS, which still holds the Norwegian-American midfielder's contract after he was bought out by New York City FC last week.

Because he was not put on waivers, as a result of a no-trade clause in his contract with NYCFC, Diskerud cannot be signed by another MLS club.

On Monday, ESPN FC's Jeff Carlisle reported – citing an unnamed source within MLS – that the deal could be completed within two days and that the loan would run only through August.
The article in the man without a club link is funny. It's like the league doesn't even know their own rules.
 
My understanding of the situation, not based on any facts or knowledge mind you, is that we are no longer taking a cap hit on his contract as he's off our books. Mix still has a contract with MLS however, as it always was, that goes for another year. If he goes to a non-MLS club, or I suppose really to any club, I'm sure there are rules for the situation about how the remaining terms of his MLS contract are covered. I'm sure that's mostly between his lawyers and their lawyers, and hopefully would have been set up in advance as part of his contract. But hey, who knows, because MLS.
 
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