2021 Schedule Thread

[ZYanksRule]

When Cuomo allowed limited capacity at the Buffalo Bills playoff games, fans had to show a negative test. He also said the Bills games were being looked at as a model for other activities in the future.

I am not sure whether the protocol will be the same for Yankee Stadium. As I’ve said before, sitting outside in masks several feet apart from other people has to be one of the safest activities we can engage in at the moment.

I do wonder whether the criteria would be the same for Madison Square Garden as for Yankee Stadium. I don’t think it should be - although MSG cert has better ventilation than the subway or someone’s house.

I also strongly hope that the Club utilizes all of Yankee Stadium for games. Certainly, the Yankees will be using the whole place, and while ticket prices are higher for the Yankees, both teams should be able to fill 4,800 seats. I am going to write my ticket rep and say as much.

Fans need to have a negative test within 72 hours to go to a sporting event, per current guidance from the state. That includes Barclays and MSG. Agree with you that NYCFC should use the entire stadium, if nothing more than to encourage even more social distancing.

 

[Kjbert]

Is it even possible to take a test within 72 hours and get results

 

[413Blue]

Is it even possible to take a test within 72 hours and get results

I've been getting the rapid tests at CVS every couple weeks just 15 minutes to results. The lab test had been within 48 hours too.
The average lab test turnaround in MA is 1.9 days. I'd imagine NY is in the same general range.

 

[Seth]

I am not sure whether the protocol will be the same for Yankee Stadium. As I’ve said before, sitting outside in masks several feet apart from other people has to be one of the safest activities we can engage in at the moment.

While that's true, there's also an hour each way on the subway, the waiting in line to get into the stadium, bathroom lines, etc. Sitting in an uncrowded open-air stadium watching a match is pretty safe, but there's more to a game day than just the match. Once I get a vaccine I'd most likely go, but not sure yet how I'd feel about it at the moment.

 

[ZYanksRule]

I've been getting the rapid tests at CVS every couple weeks just 15 minutes to results. The lab test had been within 48 hours too.
The average lab test turnaround in MA is 1.9 days. I'd imagine NY is in the same general range.

The state requires the PCR tests, not the rapid tests.

 

[Kjbert]

I've been getting the rapid tests at CVS every couple weeks just 15 minutes to results. The lab test had been within 48 hours too.
The average lab test turnaround in MA is 1.9 days. I'd imagine NY is in the same general range.

but these aren’t the PCR tests? Yes, I understand the new rapid tests are higher quality. But the lab based tests still take time to get back.

my wife and kids get tested every Thursday at school. We typically get those results Saturday PM or Sunday AM. And those tests are contracted out, meaning I assume we have a decent runaround compared to a typical healthcare provider

 

[413Blue]

but these aren’t the PCR tests? Yes, I understand the new rapid tests are higher quality. But the lab based tests still take time to get back.

my wife and kids get tested every Thursday at school. We typically get those results Saturday PM or Sunday AM. And those tests are contracted out, meaning I assume we have a decent runaround compared to a typical healthcare provider

The labs seem to be turning around fast around here. We have a couple drive-through PCR tests at local malls up here. Most people at these sites are getting results next day sometimes two.
I'm not sure which tests are considered acceptable under the NY rules for these games. Are they accepting the rapid antigen tests as "good enough"? If so, does NYS have a stockpile? https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-u-...rol-the-virus-now-many-are-unused-11613397601 it would be cool if they could set up stations in the concourses and increase the capacity well above 10%. With relatively decent accuracy, coupled with growing vaccination rates, id attend a happily attend a match at 50% capacity* in April. This probably wouldn't be attractive to all, but im sure enough people feel comfortable attending a match in that environment. With many of the vulnerable healthcare workers and elderly vaccinated by then, the whole "stay home for us" mantra gradually diminishes, so overly strict restrictions become harder and harder to uphold.

*I'm not saying 50% so cram half the sections. Open all of the normal 100-200 level seats, fill only odd numbers in one row, even numbers in the next to provide some spacing. Require masks etc.

I just really really want to go to a damn soccer game!

 

[ZYanksRule]

The labs seem to be turning around fast around here. We have a couple drive-through PCR tests at local malls up here. Most people at these sites are getting results next day sometimes two.
I'm not sure which tests are considered acceptable under the NY rules for these games. Are they accepting the rapid antigen tests as "good enough"? If so, does NYS have a stockpile? https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-u-...rol-the-virus-now-many-are-unused-11613397601 it would be cool if they could set up stations in the concourses and increase the capacity well above 10%. With relatively decent accuracy, coupled with growing vaccination rates, id attend a happily attend a match at 50% capacity* in April. This probably wouldn't be attractive to all, but im sure enough people feel comfortable attending a match in that environment. With many of the vulnerable healthcare workers and elderly vaccinated by then, the whole "stay home for us" mantra gradually diminishes, so overly strict restrictions become harder and harder to uphold.

*I'm not saying 50% so cram half the sections. Open all of the normal 100-200 level seats, fill only odd numbers in one row, even numbers in the next to provide some spacing. Require masks etc.

I just really really want to go to a damn soccer game!

They are not accepting antigen tests for the 72 hours testing rule. Has to be a PCR test.

 

[mgarbowski]

When they opened the stadium in Buffalo for the playoff game, they also set up a specific testng site for fans to go to.

Bills COVID test procedures expand to open other venues

Citing the success of the Buffalo Bills two home playoff games, Governor Andrew Cuomo says the state will approve the reopening of mass gatherings sites…

news.wbfo.org

This article hints that will stay in place for other venues around the state, but I'm not sure that's chiseled in stone, or bricks, if people are still expecting that.

 

[Kjbert]

Just enforce a fucking mask rule. This is so incredibly dumb.

 

[FredMertz]

Yes. getting the vaccine means if you do get infected, the worst that can happen is you get some flu symptoms. I am not disputing that at all.

You should dispute that because it hasn’t proven to be true yet. Nor has it been proven that you can’t spread COVID post-vaccine (that’s not the case with the flu vaccine) and there is still no vaccine approved for <16 or pregnant women.

 

[ZYanksRule]

You should dispute that because it hasn’t proven to be true yet. Nor has it been proven that you can’t spread COVID post-vaccine (that’s not the case with the flu vaccine) and there is still no vaccine approved for <16 or pregnant women.

Of 75,000 people in all the COVID trials, a grand total of zero people needed hospitalization or died from the group that got the vaccine. With a reasonable level of certainty, we can say that the vaccines completely prevent serious illness, or at least make the risk of serious illness virtually zero.

 

[EganSoccerWords]

You should dispute that because it hasn’t proven to be true yet. Nor has it been proven that you can’t spread COVID post-vaccine (that’s not the case with the flu vaccine) and there is still no vaccine approved for <16 or pregnant women.

Pregnant women are approved to get the vaccine.

 

[Gotham Gator]

Pregnant women are approved to get the vaccine.

Indeed, the good Mrs. Dr. G has advised patients as much, and her own pregnant sister has gotten it.

 

[Gotham Gator]

Ultimately, this is about risk vs. reward - in the way many things are.

Yes, there is a theoretical risk of transmission post vaccine. A person needs to balance that against the benefits of getting out and doing things in public. Policy makers need to balance that against the benefits of opening up the economy and school.

To a large extent, we will know a lot about the magnitude of the risk in a few weeks, once more have been vaccinated and the impact of that on disease levels and transmission is clearer.

 

[413Blue]

Ultimately, this is about risk vs. reward - in the way many things are.

Yes, there is a theoretical risk of transmission post vaccine. A person needs to balance that against the benefits of getting out and doing things in public. Policy makers need to balance that against the benefits of opening up the economy and school.

To a large extent, we will know a lot about the magnitude of the risk in a few weeks, once more have been vaccinated and the impact of that on disease levels and transmission is clearer.

Israel was able to proceed very quickly with its rollout (wealthy, relatively small and compressed population makes that pretty easy in relation to our large sprawling population) and also able to conduct large scale studies. The info from that study is very encouraging!

 

[mgarbowski]

Israel was able to proceed very quickly with its rollout (wealthy, relatively small and compressed population makes that pretty easy in relation to our large sprawling population)

This article makes a rather compelling case that our vaccine rollout has been exemplary. What is perhaps most astonishing is that the author manages to assign both credit and blame (but mostly credit!) across the political divide in a good faith manner, which IMO is in short supply these days.

The U.S.' vaccine rollout is world-beating

That doesn't mean it's good enough. But let's take a moment to appreciate it.

noahpinion.substack.com

 

[Shwafta]

This article makes a rather compelling case that our vaccine rollout has been exemplary. What is perhaps most astonishing is that the author manages to assign both credit and blame (but mostly credit!) across the political divide in a good faith manner, which IMO is in short supply these days.

The U.S.' vaccine rollout is world-beating

That doesn't mean it's good enough. But let's take a moment to appreciate it.

noahpinion.substack.com

I was shocked when I was talking to some friends in other countries and they were like "My country sucks bc we don't even have vaccines available yet..." and that's when I realized that maybe the US isn't doing such a bad job after all...

 

[413Blue]

The EU has been very poor so far, the UK is doing fairly well, albeit with a primary vaccine that hasn't received US approval and appears to be inferior to the ones we are using, Japan, Australia and South Korea haven't even started yet. All countries that are wealthy and adept at medical research and production, and mostly regarded as handling this whole crisis better than we did, all way behind us so far.
Our rollout has been frustrating, confusing, and slow, but it's right in line with what we've been told to expect from Warp Speed and the Biden admin.

 

[Kjbert]

You should dispute that because it hasn’t proven to be true yet. Nor has it been proven that you can’t spread COVID post-vaccine (that’s not the case with the flu vaccine) and there is still no vaccine approved for <16 or pregnant women.

sorry man. But this isn’t true.

it’s ok to be nervous still. But none of the above is based in fact except the part about kids not getting vaccines