David Villa Sanchez [Forward]

[Seven]

UPDATE:
"Having evaluated the evolution in the first hours of the elongation suffered by David Villa in training this morning, it has been decided that the player should leave the concentration and not travel to Liechtenstein .
The medical services of the Selection have informed the of their club."
http://www.sefutbol.com/david-villa-finalmente-sera-baja

ALSO:
UPDATE, 4pm ET Sunday:
The Spanish national team announced this afternoon that Villa will, after all, not travel with the team to Liechtenstein, and will be returning to NYCFC. Stay tuned for more updates on his health once he is back with his club.
https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/09/03/david-villa-strains-adductor-spain-leaving-camp-updated

Latter report is based on the former. I would say the announcement is ambiguous. It could be the MRI was bad and Spain is letting him go because he's useless anyway. Or it could be the medicals are unclear to good but everyone decided it was better to send him back to his club given Spain probably wasn't starting him anyway.

Time to start praying to the soccer gods that it's not a long term injury, and this is just precautionary.

As amazing as it was to see him back with Spain, and how damn happy he seemed, it will not have been worth it for the worst case scenario of him missing multiple games, dropping out of the #2 seed, losing the Golden Boot and the MVP.

 

[100G and above]

Time to start praying to the soccer gods that it's not a long term injury, and this is just precautionary.

As amazing as it was to see him back with Spain, and how damn happy he seemed, it will not have been worth it for the worst case scenario of him missing multiple games, dropping out of the #2 seed, losing the Golden Boot and the MVP.

Worst case includes a quick playoff exit, potentially in an away match

 

[LionNYC]

Time to start praying to the soccer gods that it's not a long term injury, and this is just precautionary.

First, I obviously want him to be healthy and able to play at the level he has during this season.

That being said, if it is long term, we already signed him to an extension so that DP spot is filled.

 

[Ulrich]

UPDATE:
"Having evaluated the evolution in the first hours of the elongation suffered by David Villa in training this morning, it has been decided that the player should leave the concentration and not travel to Liechtenstein .
The medical services of the Selection have informed the of their club."
http://www.sefutbol.com/david-villa-finalmente-sera-baja

ALSO:
UPDATE, 4pm ET Sunday:
The Spanish national team announced this afternoon that Villa will, after all, not travel with the team to Liechtenstein, and will be returning to NYCFC. Stay tuned for more updates on his health once he is back with his club.
https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/09/03/david-villa-strains-adductor-spain-leaving-camp-updated

Latter report is based on the former. I would say the announcement is ambiguous. It could be the MRI was bad and Spain is letting him go because he's useless anyway. Or it could be the medicals are unclear to good but everyone decided it was better to send him back to his club given Spain probably wasn't starting him anyway.

It's what I said earlier... never ever fcking trust a coach talking about an injured player because it's more often than not a whitewashing of the situation to deflect blame.

If I was betting, I'd venture Villa was injured yesterday in the game from one of those weird slips, and the coaches decided not to say anything until today hoping he'd feel better over night. The waiting has kept Villa from getting immediate attention from his club's medical team, which may be a mixed blessing considering the incompetence they seem to have with other players' treatment.

 

[Gotham Gator]

The one thing that could mess up our prospects to finish 2nd overall.

Let's hope this is brief, and he's back for a game in 2 weeks.

 

[Christopher Jee]

The one thing that could mess up our prospects to finish 2nd overall.

Let's hope this is brief, and he's back for a game in 2 weeks.

Positive conspiracy theory - Liechtenstein was a pointless game so Villa opted to be "extra cautious" with this strain (I believe he's had similar issues before) so that he could be back earlier.

And the main reason he went to camp is to convince Iniesta to sign up.

 

[mgarbowski]

If I was betting, I'd venture Villa was injured yesterday in the game from one of those weird slips, and the coaches decided not to say anything until today hoping he'd feel better over night. The waiting has kept Villa from getting immediate attention from his club's medical team, which may be a mixed blessing considering the incompetence they seem to have with other players' treatment.

Why the holy fuck would Villa go along with this charade, including delayed treatment?

 

[mgarbowski]

Well he doesn't seem too concerned...

 

[Ulrich]

Why the holy fuck would Villa go along with this charade, including delayed treatment?

Because the physio tells Villa it's nothing and he'll be better after ice, massage, and rest.

 

[mgarbowski]

Because the physio tells Villa it's nothing and he'll be better after ice, massage, and rest.

But he knows whether he was hurt last night or this morning. And if he's lying to the public and more importantly, to NYCFC as to that, then fuck David Villa. You really believe that?

 

[Seven]

Because the physio tells Villa it's nothing and he'll be better after ice, massage, and rest.

He's no doctor, but I am sure at this point in his career, Villa knows his body well enough to know if it's something minor that he can play through, or something that is going to be a problem. And I'm sure he also knows how important he is to NYCFC, and I would hope he wouldn't essentially risk the season for some minutes for Spain

 

[Ulrich]

But he knows whether he was hurt last night or this morning. And if he's lying to the public and more importantly, to NYCFC as to that, then fuck David Villa. You really believe that?

He's no doctor, but I am sure at this point in his career, Villa knows his body well enough to know if it's something minor that he can play through, or something that is going to be a problem. And I'm sure he also knows how important he is to NYCFC, and I would hope he wouldn't essentially risk the season for some minutes for Spain

He probably does know the difference which is why he's on a plane now. My hypothesis may not be correct, but if it is, it's not a crass "Fck David Villa he's being selfish" situation, it's a "this coach gave me an opportunity to come back to the team and I'm not gonna throw him under the bus because nothing good comes from it" situation.

Every player wants to play and none of them want to admit an injury is worse than it is. That's why in soccer there are players sometimes "beating" the concussion protocol and going back out. In college football there are players back on the field with a severely sprained ankle after 2 aspirin & taped up with five rolls of tape. I'm sure Villa has played through plenty of pain that normally needs real rest to heal, and maybe this was a time he thought he could play through it if it warmed up a bit and got loose. Who knows?!?!

Unless this is just a ruse to let him leave early in a justified manner like Christopher Jee suggested, because the Spanish faithful wouldn't understand his love of NYCFC vs the bench for Spain, then I'm not going to hold my breath. If it isn't a ruse, then we all better buckle up for the wild ride off the cliff searching for goals.

 

[SoupInNYC]

Positive conspiracy theory - Liechtenstein was a pointless game so Villa opted to be "extra cautious" with this strain (I believe he's had similar issues before) so that he could be back earlier.

And the main reason he went to camp is to convince Iniesta to sign up.

Even more positive conspiracy theory. He doesn't actually have an injury and is just using it as an excuse to get back to NYC ASAP, because he knows how important this race is.

 

[LionNYC]

Or Villa knows...

- The game in Spain was more important for him even for three minutes than a start in Lichtenstein because he is in front of the Spanish fans
- Villa knows that with that win vs. Italy, and a more than likely win at Lichtenstein, Spain will qualify for the World Cup so he doesn't need to be with Spain on Tuesday
- Spain knows that Villa is more important to NYCFC than with Spain at 35 given the Spanish roster vs. Lichtenstein
- Villa knows the Portland match at home is important because it will be 40+ days until NYCFC play at home in Yankee Stadium again
- It's a minor injury and he'll be rested and well for Saturday.

I can hope...

 

[Ulrich]

Even more positive conspiracy theory. He doesn't actually have an injury and is just using it as an excuse to get back to NYC ASAP, because he knows how important this race is.

We can only hope. Like really really hope with tin foil hats on and sitting under the table.

 

[SoupInNYC]

We can only hope. Like really really hope with tin foil hats on and sitting under the table.

 

[Angela Miller]

Like the people in Huston now i add our Batman to my prayers !!

 

[100G and above]

The next match with Spain would have been his 99th cap. All the positive theories are laughable.

Read up on abductors. His front and back bottoms are hurting and this is not something that goes back to 100% without a lot of rest.

 

[Seven]

The next match with Spain would have been his 99th cap. All the positive theories are laughable.

Read up on abductors. His front and back bottoms are hurting and this is not something that goes back to 100% without a lot of rest.

Unfortunately I don't think he would leave unless he is injured enough that he knows he won't play. There was talk that he could start vs Lichtenstein, or at least get significant minutes. And because it's Lichtenstein, good chance of him scoring.

Just gonna pray he can play on Saturday. He wasn't going to play Wednesday anyway, so just praying for Saturday

 

[Angela Miller]

Can anyone tell me if the long flights to Spain may have opened him up for injury due to fatigue ? Thanks !