wait he was part of eurovision? I know eurovision lol. someone said this was iceland-specific though? Or this was their 'qualifier' for eurovision?
Gudmundur Thórarinsson [Defender]
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I believe it was their qualifier for it, not sure though. I don't have any Icelandic sources to refer to.
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His name is in fact just Gudmundur. Thorarinsson (meaning the same as it sounds) is a patronym, not a surname.
It's just the way they spell his name in his native land of Iceland. His last name is based on the patronymic method, not a surname, which means his "lastname" derives from his father's name + son. So he is Gudmundur, Thoraron's son.
Guðmundur Þórarinsson- There isn't a direct letter swap to the English language, so they throw in something that's close enough.
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So....... does that mean that if he has a son, that son would be called Something Gudmundurson?
Yep. Your son(s) would be;
[FIRST NAME] Jocksson
A lot of names like Jackson and Peterson/Pedersen derived from this naming system, but due to a lack of knowledge/history/moving they incorporated the patronymic name into a surname. At some point a few families said "fuck it" and just used the Patronymic name as a surname.
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huh
Similar reasons other surnames came about.. like Weaver and Smith for trades like weaving and blacksmith.
I suppose the Welsh type (Richards, Williams, Jones. Davies etc.) is just a version of patronym names, where the name shows whose kid it is, and during the centuries these have become surnames. Just as the Irish O' and Scottish Mac. The Jocky version of Gudmundur would thus be Gudmundur McThorarin.
Makes me wonder where the actual surname vs patronymic name tradition came from.
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I mean, if you look around cultures it exists in SO many places.Makes me wonder where the actual surname vs patronymic name tradition came from.
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In semitic languages you have it too - such as 'ben' in hebrew or 'bin' or 'ibn' in arabic meaning 'son of', then you have 'van' in dutch... I don't know much about if it exists in Asian languages but from my experience with Japanese and Chinese it doesn't - seems to stop around the mountain ranges surrounding china / east. Maybe I'm wrong about that - anyone know any information that says otherwise?
And I'm not talking about googling it
Makes me wonder where the actual surname vs patronymic name tradition came from.
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The Dutch "van XXXX" is moreso an indicator royal family name, rather than patronymic. Similar to German "von XXXX." The Dutch use(d) -zoon/-sen and -dochter at the end of names.I mean, if you look around cultures it exists in SO many places.
In semitic languages you have it too - such as 'ben' in hebrew or 'bin' or 'ibn' in arabic meaning 'son of', then you have 'van' in dutch... I don't know much about if it exists in Asian languages but from my experience with Japanese and Chinese it doesn't - seems to stop around the mountain ranges surrounding china / east. Maybe I'm wrong about that - anyone know any information that says otherwise?
And I'm not talking about googling it
Shwafta the wiki page has some more info, I'd use the source links to get even more random and thorough info too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patronymic
He’s probably a nice guy and apparently an able musician, but as a soccer player he’s so far been a tourist at NYCFC. Perhaps cv has hindered his progress, who knows. (I wish him well ofc)
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To be fair he is a backup, but in the moments he's had (as a fullback) he hasn't been terrible
I feel we haven't really been able to get an idea as to how he plays since his only start came as a winger (even though he's apparently a CM/LB) and his only other playing time is as a 5-10 minute sub for Mata. Very small sample size, but I agree he hasn't shown too much in the small sample size. Still some hope, but I think we need to see him get a few more minutes before passing a true judgement.
i did not go. shame if he was unhappy. bigger shame if he was forced to do this in some way?
we do know he has been unhappy about his playing time, but to be fair, he didn't exactly impress in his last start.
