Jovan Mijatović [Forward] [On Loan - Out]

Played the full 90' in Serbia's U21 2-0 win over Bosnia U21, on 3/17, with 0 goals or assists. Has yet to start in Belgium 7 games in, and has 1 goal in 5 appearances off the bench. On one hand, I'd like to see him do well enough for us to get some of that transfer money back on the other hand it's hard to root for the guy based on how he conducted himself during his time with NYCFC and that whiny interview he gave over the summer about MLS.
 
gbservis said:
Played the full 90' in Serbia's U21 2-0 win over Bosnia U21, on 3/17, with 0 goals or assists. Has yet to start in Belgium 7 games in, and has 1 goal in 5 appearances off the bench. On one hand, I'd like to see him do well enough for us to get some of that transfer money back on the other hand it's hard to root for the guy based on how he conducted himself during his time with NYCFC and that whiny interview he gave over the summer about MLS.
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I hear you. But I want him to crush it. Go score 30. Give us a bundle of cash. (Cue the "that David Lee won't spend" jokes.)
 
FootyLovin said:
I hear you. But I want him to crush it. Go score 30. Give us a bundle of cash. (Cue the "that David Lee won't spend" jokes.)
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Another issue with this situation is that Sims will likely give an interview praising Lee for excelling at the business side of running the team while completely ignoring the fact that this entire transaction has been a net negative for NYCFC’s on-field quality for multiple seasons. They spent the bulk of the Taty money to acquire Jovan, which means that as fans, we lost Taty and, in return, got little to root for. Now, Jovan seems to be tying up both that money and a valuable U22 slot until he can hopefully be sold for a profit.

I want to support a team whose ambition is to win the league every year—not a club that operates like a brokerage firm.

Edit: and if you need to buy and sell players to fund the club at least do it with players that help make NYCFC better and are fun to watch during the asset appreciation phase.
 
Loan ends June 30th... England next?
 

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Just sell him! He clearly has no interest being back here, why leave one of the 6 most valuable roster slots tied up in a loan he isn't even excelling in. Same goes for talles
 
Alex Da Silva said:
Just sell him! He clearly has no interest being back here, why leave one of the 6 most valuable roster slots tied up in a loan he isn't even excelling in. Same goes for talles
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because they are extremely stubborn and hate being wrong. They want him to hit while he's still on our wage bill so they can say it worked.

They'd rather be right than win.
 
ZYanksRule said:
They'd rather be right make money than win.
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FIFY

ETA. To be fair, I think they want to win. But I think "they" is different for different roles. My guess as to "their" priorities:

CFG - make money, win, be right
Pascal - win, toss up
Lee - make money, win, be right

It's a business. The only person who has winning as his primary role objective is Pascal. Lee and Sims are responsible for P&L. Companies talk all the time about making customer or product quality their top priority. But when they start to miss their quarterly projections (more so for public companies, but private also), they do all kinds of things that send the message to management that P&L comes first.
 
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The Club are taking a calculated risk that he will perform well enough to increase his selling price, which right now must be well below where it was when we purchased him. That's all. It's a risk they took with Taty that paid off big time. With Jovan, it's a pretty clear decision. His value can't drop much more from here as it must already be a fraction of what it had been.
 
Gotham Gator said:
The Club are taking a calculated risk that he will perform well enough to increase his selling price, which right now must be well below where it was when we purchased him. That's all. It's a risk they took with Taty that paid off big time. With Jovan, it's a pretty clear decision. His value can't drop much more from here as it must already be a fraction of what it had been.
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This is all part of the plan, David Lee is just "optimizing Jovan's development" :rolleyes:.

 
FootyLovin said:
FIFY

ETA. To be fair, I think they want to win. But I think "they" is different for different roles. My guess as to "their" priorities:

CFG - make money, win, be right
Pascal - win, toss up
Lee - make money, win, be right

It's a business. The only person who has winning as his primary role objective is Pascal. Lee and Sims are responsible for P&L. Companies talk all the time about making customer or product quality their top priority. But when they start to miss their quarterly projections (more so for public companies, but private also), they do all kinds of things that send the message to management that P&L comes first.
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I think this is right, with the gloss that CFG and Lee believe[d] there is minimal tension among those goals, because CFG scouting ands execs were/are significantly more informed and smarter than your average MLS sporting exec, and probably even in other leagues.
The question is whether the money wasted on Jovan, Ojeda, Fernandez and Bakrar disabused them of that notion.
And as gbservis just wrote in another thread,
gbservis said:
If David Lee had a choice between adding a player that will add 5 wins a year for the next 5 years or a player he can sell after a year for $5M in profit, he will take the money every time.
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For the club, Gaby Pereira was a huge success. For fans, he was a blip.
 
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Agree with all of this. And I also try to keep in mind that we have a star.

Playoffs are fickle and we could easily have ended up an also ran. But we could also have performed better in numerous years.

So while I think the business model will always push profit slightly ahead of winning for a team with CFG as the owner (MCFC not included), I also try to temper this frustration with acknowledging that we've had great cause to celebrate too.
 
In many ways the two goals are intertwined. If we win, odds are our players will increase in value. And if our players increase in value, it's because they're having success and helping us win.

In Jovan's case, they are holding onto him in hopes he plays well and they can say they were right about him.
 
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