MLS Cup Playoffs - Knockout Round - 2017

[mgarbowski]

This is what happened to Chicago.

Brandon Vincent missed 8 straight starts beginning with the NYC game.
Meira was injured 3 weeks later and missed a month
Polster was hurt in August.
That's 75% of the backline gone coinciding with the start of their slide.

When the backline got healthy, Schweinsteiger was hurt and played a combined 123 minutes in September and October including last night.
de Leeuw got hurt on Sept 30 against us and played 0 minutes in October, depriving Nikolic and Accam of service.
Accam has been playing with a bad hip and will have surgery soon.

 

[Sabo]

I'm rooting for an ATL - Crew tie score after 90 minutes tonight.

 

[adam]

I'm rooting for an ATL - Crew tie score after 90 minutes tonight.

Can they tie till 120?

 

[SoupInNYC]

That game may have also proved that schweinsteiger wasn’t going to win all their games for them.

One thing to remember about that game was that McCarty didn’t play. Would have been a different game were he healthy.

FWIW, my brother who lives in Chicago and is a Fire fan prefers Mihailovic to Schweini in their starting XI.

 

[LionNYC]

Can they tie till 120?

120 minutes, the PKs, and a few yellows and reds for each team would be great.

 

[Ulrich]

120 minutes, the PKs, and a few yellows and reds for each team would be great.

Yeah, 5+min of extra time each half would also be fantastic.

 

[Gotham Gator]

By the way, does anyone else think the first Red Fools goal last night was offsides?

I am watching the replay, and Stuart Holden is pronouncing BWP onside, and I am thinking I must be crazy since it looks to me like his leg is clearly past the last defender.

Then on Instant Replay, Borg shows the same replay and also says he looks onside. Then Borg introduces the analysis by the guy who triangulates everything, and that guy said BWP was 3" off. But Borg still says he wouldn't have overturned.

 

[Gotham Gator]

https://twitter.com/x/status/923353384102645760

 

[mgarbowski]

The prospect of people being annoyed that VAR doesn't "fix" a 3-inch offsides no-call is exactly why I hate VAR.

 

[Gotham Gator]

The prospect of people being annoyed that VAR doesn't "fix" a 3-inch offsides no-call is exactly why I hate VAR.

I was more annoyed that nobody else seemed to notice it live - or more accurately, that everyone else seemed to think he was on - wouldn't even say it was close or questionable. It's actually more than 3" because the Soccer Photogrammetry guy used a frame that is after the ball is away. Look at the picture below. It seems rather obvious to me.

 

[SoupInNYC]

By the way, does anyone else think the first Red Fools goal last night was offsides?

I am watching the replay, and Stuart Holden is pronouncing BWP onside, and I am thinking I must be crazy since it looks to me like his leg is clearly past the last defender.

Then on Instant Replay, Borg shows the same replay and also says he looks onside. Then Borg introduces the analysis by the guy who triangulates everything, and that guy said BWP was 3" off. But Borg still says he wouldn't have overturned.

Yeah, I thought the same thing. I didn't see it live, just the highlight, but heard Holden on it and I really wasn't certain.

I didn't look at any stills or slow-motion replays, but it did look super close and the above confirms that at least. I'm surprised it wasn't looked at with VAR at least.

 

[mgarbowski]

I was more annoyed that nobody else seemed to notice it live - or more accurately, that everyone else seemed to think he was on - wouldn't even say it was close or questionable. It's actually more than 3" because the Soccer Photogrammetry guy used a frame that is after the ball is away. Look at the picture below. It seems rather obvious to me.

I thought it was a 50/50 myself. Made harder because BWP was moving back when the ball was hit. By the time he finished the step he was onside, but the ball was struck midstep. Very tough. And apart from any rooting interest, when it's close -- like 3" close -- I want the goal to count. I really wanted Chicago to win last night, but even if this is called back I don't see that happening so I can afford to be gracious.

 

[sbrylski]

50/50 should go to the offense anyway. I think it's worse when a goal is disallowed incorrectly than when a goal is allowed incorrectly.

 

[Midas Mulligan]

I thought it was a 50/50 myself. Made harder because BWP was moving back when the ball was hit. By the time he finished the step he was onside, but the ball was struck midstep. Very tough. And apart from any rooting interest, when it's close -- like 3" close -- I want the goal to count. I really wanted Chicago to win last night, but even if this is called back I don't see that happening so I can afford to be gracious.

Live, it looked a bad call. But I can live with it.

I agree with you and sbrylski

 

[Midas Mulligan]

Alan Chapman should be relieved of his duties.

 

[Rimil]

The prospect of people being annoyed that VAR doesn't "fix" a 3-inch offsides no-call is exactly why I hate VAR.

How about it doesn't fix 3 foot offside calls? It's so shit

 

[EganSoccerWords]

Thats one of the worst calls I have ever seen. We need some fucking RAM to poach officials from Europe.

 

[Midas Mulligan]

Thats one of the worst calls I have ever seen. We need some fucking RAM to poach officials from Europe.

Followed up by one just as bad.

The thing is, the worst ones are the ones PRO continues to assign.

 

[mgarbowski]

They’re saying it couldn’t be reviewed because the whistle blew.

 

[mgarbowski]

This is a very fun wide open game for 0-0.