New 2015 Roster Rules

"Each club has two Designated Player spots and clubs are allowed to “purchase” a third Designated Player spot for an annual fee of $150,000 that will be dispersed in the form of Allocation Money to all clubs that do not have three Designated Players. Clubs will not have to buy the third DP roster spot to accommodate Designated Players 23 years old and younger."

Looks like no 4th DP
 
"Each club has two Designated Player spots and clubs are allowed to “purchase” a third Designated Player spot for an annual fee of $150,000 that will be dispersed in the form of Allocation Money to all clubs that do not have three Designated Players. Clubs will not have to buy the third DP roster spot to accommodate Designated Players 23 years old and younger."

Looks like no 4th DP
Looks like we may not be getting a 3rd DP
 
So, are the DP rules actually more restrictive this year or was it always the case that the 3rd DP spot had to be purchased?
 
Very quick summary of major changes or non-changes that people have been asking about for a while:
  • Salary cap is now $3.49M (was $3.1M)
  • Roster size is now 28 (was 30). Senior roster is still 20 players, slots 21-28 are off-budget.
  • Maximum roster charge per player, which is also the DP charge, is now $436,250. This is still the same 12.5% ratio of the total cap as it was previously. (was $387,500)
  • There are still only three DP slots.
  • All player acquisitions, with limited exceptions like Homegrowns, will either now go through allocation (with a public list of which players are eligible) or discovery.
  • There are now only 7 discovery slots per team.
  • There are formal methods for resolving discovery conflicts.
  • Free agency is lightly sketched out - 28 years, 8 years of MLS service, out of contract. More details will be released when the CBA is ratified, which also tells us that the CBA is not ratified
 
So, are the DP rules actually more restrictive this year or was it always the case that the 3rd DP spot had to be purchased?

It certainly feels like it's become more restrictive. It's a strange move.
 
Sooo not much change from previous agreement? DP looks worse. So players association failed to get a better deal for next cycle?
 
Terrible. No 4th dp. This league....i was hoping for the rumored 4th dp-eque slot for domestic players or something between dp quality and non dp (mix)
 
Ugh. It's just 5 years. I hope players have a better go at it next time around.

I mean, I'll pay more at the ticket booth if it means more money for players.
 
5 DP slots and a $10 cap might squeeze out the small markets, and these caps are what keeps MLS from drawing the best talent in their early 20's not mid 30's.
Id argue that Boston is not a small market.

Also, did you see Taylor twellmans tweet about ligaMX vs MLS roster construction? With the same overall team salary Mexican teams had better and deeper teams because they weren't blowing so much of their salary on DPs. Guys making more top to bottom made for better teams.
 
Id argue that Boston is not a small market.

Also, did you see Taylor twellmans tweet about ligaMX vs MLS roster construction? With the same overall team salary Mexican teams had better and deeper teams because they weren't blowing so much of their salary on DPs. Guys making more top to bottom made for better teams.
Yea that's because of small/cheap market owners. The way things are we can't spread the salaries we're paying evenly because DP spots are a luxury. So it's better for them to pay 3.5 mil at most with a cheap DP as opposing to having a 5 mil salary cap where they could spread it more evenly. Teams like us who are willing to spend are stuck paying 3.1 mil on the majority of the roster and 15 mil with big name DPs when something around the middle would benefit the league and compete more realistically with Mexico.
The numbers I gave are just examples.
 
Yea that's because of small/cheap market owners. The way things are we can't spread the salaries we're paying evenly because DP spots are a luxury. So it's better for them to pay 3.5 mil at most with a cheap DP as opposing to having a 5 mil salary cap where they could spread it more evenly. Teams like us who are willing to spend are stuck paying 3.1 mil on the majority of the roster and 15 mil with big name DPs when something around the middle would benefit the league and compete more realistically with Mexico.
The numbers I gave are just examples.
Your point argues against more DP slots, right?
 
Id argue that Boston is not a small market.

Also, did you see Taylor twellmans tweet about ligaMX vs MLS roster construction? With the same overall team salary Mexican teams had better and deeper teams because they weren't blowing so much of their salary on DPs. Guys making more top to bottom made for better teams.


I agree that Boston is not a small market but has a fan base used to losing.
If we had a $50 million cap there would be 16 teams and NYC would draw the best players
As far as pay in mexico $ goes 5x as far. a 4 million cap there is like a 16 cap here
 
I think the owners are right in keeping the cap down. Paying your players more doesn't make them better. Where are all these Americans that we can suddenly sign if teams had more cap room? They don't exist.

We could increase the cap and sign more foreigners, probably, but that's not a long term strategy for improving the league. By keeping the salary cap and international player slots low, we are actually encouraging teams to set up domestic academies to develop talent. Which is what our incentive structure should be doing.

Until we start losing non-DPs to foreign leagues at a substantial rate, there is no reason to increase the cap. The simple fact is our players are getting paid exactly what the international market values them at.

Look no further than Mix. One of the better Americans in the world, and he still fits snugly under the cap as a non-DP, and nobody else in the world is offering him more money. Seems to me that the cap is calibrated quite well.
 
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