Nick Cushing Named Interim HC (Jul '22) / HC (Nov '22) / Fired (Nov ‘24)

What Are Your Thoughts on Cushing as NYCFC Head Coach?

  • Quite Really Pleased

    Votes: 2 6.3%
  • Really Pleased

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Pleased

    Votes: 2 6.3%
  • Neither Pleased or Displeased

    Votes: 5 15.6%
  • Displeased

    Votes: 7 21.9%
  • Really Displeased

    Votes: 3 9.4%
  • Quite Really Displeased

    Votes: 13 40.6%

  • Total voters
    32
Yup. When things were going bad early this year, I had the sense that Nick had lost the team and he had to go. Either I was way wrong then, or he won them back. Good news either way.

Hopefully we don't have another disastrous run of form, but I'm feeling pretty good overall about the team at this point. Obviously we won't be seeing a coaching change during this season, but Cushing still needs to prove that he can have sustained success, not the occasional hot streak.

We had small moments of dissent like when Santi yelled at Mehdi that one time when he got subbed but I never saw a lack of effort or the general levels of apathy that are usually the tell-tale signs of a team that is out on their coach. Our execution was abysmal at the start of the season but the level of effort was always there. Cushing lost the fans but I don't think he ever lost the team.
 
I think:
  • coaches lose players' respect much less often than fans assume,
  • it rarely happens due to losing, rather
  • winning hides personality issues and losing embiggens them, and
  • the main causes are favoritism, imposing no discipline or too much, and just being there too long.
Players act out when losing because they are frustrated at losing; it does not mean they do not respect the coach. What matters then is that the coach acts to squelch it using appropriate measures (see favoritism, too little/much discipline etc).
 
I think:
  • coaches lose players' respect much less often than fans assume,
  • it rarely happens due to losing, rather
  • winning hides personality issues and losing embiggens them, and
  • the main causes are favoritism, imposing no discipline or too much, and just being there too long.
Players act out when losing because they are frustrated at losing; it does not mean they do not respect the coach. What matters then is that the coach acts to squelch it using appropriate measures (see favoritism, too little/much discipline etc).
A hugely critical point. And it's one of the reasons I've said, "Nick is our guy." He was a schools coach and a development coach before becoming the gaffer at Manchester City Women and taking them from a standing start -- and a horrible first few months -- to a perennial championship caliber side. He knows how to connect with players on a personal level, mold a team, mold talent.

He's taken a lot of knocks for not being able to develop players, but when has he really had the chance to do it until now? At least with us. When all is said and done, we're going to see what he really can do as far as nurturing potential is concerned.

He also knows the game. He had his FIFA A-license at, what, 28 years old or something like that? But for all his knowledge, he has no illusions of being some kind of genius. He has the quality I've seen in successful businesspeople, over and over: humility with pride. He's humble, but proud of his work.

It all came through in something he said yesterday: we shouldn't start to think the process is complete just because we had such a great week. There's still a lot to be done, still a lot of room for improvement, and there are going to be more twists and turns, more bumps in the road. He's not all full of himself and he's not going to let the lads get all full of themselves, either. And the areas he highlighted are the exact ones we've been highlighting ourselves.

I couldn't have hoped for a better postgame press conference than he had after beating Red Bull. Absolutely spot on.

He's our guy.
 
Yup. When things were going bad early this year, I had the sense that Nick had lost the team and he had to go. Either I was way wrong then, or he won them back. Good news either way.

Hopefully we don't have another disastrous run of form, but I'm feeling pretty good overall about the team at this point. Obviously we won't be seeing a coaching change during this season, but Cushing still needs to prove that he can have sustained success, not the occasional hot streak.

I don't think Nick ever lost the players -- the fact the team continued to play hard through the end of last year and the start of this year said everything you need to know about what the team thinks of its head coach.
 
I don't think Nick ever lost the players -- the fact the team continued to play hard through the end of last year and the start of this year said everything you need to know about what the team thinks of its head coach.
The thing that got me was the Keaton post-game remarks. That was the key thing that made me think he lost the team. Obviously, as others pointed out, very little of what teams do is done in public. We don't see the meetings, we don't see anything other than selected training footage, we don't see how the team interacts on planes/buses. We only see them on the field, which is when everyone has the most emotions, and we don't hear most of what is said even on the field, so we make judgements on such limited information. But that's what sports are all about. Fans knowing next to nothing but discussing it like they do. I hear NFL/MLB fans talking about their teams as if the players are their roommates and what they think is fact.
 
No discipline for Nick based on the Toronto punch accusations.


"Cleared" is an aggressive but fair reading of the MLS statement, which I cannot find on the MLS website. They seem to be downplaying this.
 
No discipline for Nick based on the Toronto punch accusations.


"Cleared" is an aggressive but fair reading of the MLS statement, which I cannot find on the MLS website. They seem to be downplaying this.
The way I interpret this is that vague and ambiguous is probably the best for all involved.
 
Find it crazy that MLS isn't fining or suspending Toronto FC's coach John Herdman for making false accusations.

Find it crazy that MLS didn't go further in their statement to begin with. It's so opaque. They didn't punish Nick, but also didn't exonerate him. It's all so bizarre.

If the accusation is false, Herdman shouldn't have a job anymore. If the accusation is true, Cushing shouldn't have a job anymore.
 
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Find it crazy that MLS didn't go further in their statement to begin with. It's so opaque. They didn't punish Nick, but also didn't exonerate him. It's all so bizarre.

If the accusation is false, Herdman shouldn't have a job anymore. If the accusation is true, Cushing shouldn't have a job anymore.
Seriously. But it looks like the league is intent on shoving this one down the memory hole.

We won't forget it though.
 
Find it crazy that MLS didn't go further in their statement to begin with. It's so opaque. They didn't punish Nick, but also didn't exonerate him. It's all so bizarre.

If the accusation is false, Herdman shouldn't have a job anymore. If the accusation is true, Cushing shouldn't have a job anymore.
Maybe they simply were not able to find enough evidence, or there was enough nuance to what happened that it is not clear cut, and they decided it would be best to move on.
 
Maybe they simply were not able to find enough evidence, or there was enough nuance to what happened that it is not clear cut, and they decided it would be best to move on.
Totally plausible. And somewhat understandable, given the league's position.

But if that's the case, then Herdman made a very serious allegation against our guy without the evidence, or even the necessary information, to back it up. Plus, he hasn't (as far as I know) retracted it, let alone apologize for it.

Move on, fine. Forget -- no way. And while we're at it, let's beat the ham salad out of them next time we see them, and every time after that, just to make sure they get the point.
 
Great interview with Cushing here:

Apart from the substance, I love how the transcript fully captures Nick's voice and speech mannerisms. It's so easy to hear him saying those responses. Well done to Oliver, or CHATwhatever, or the HRB intern for not smoothing out the things that make him Nick.