Stadium Discussion
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I think they SHOULD go big with a design like this. it is NYC after all and it will be the crown jewel of soccer venues in the north east and has a chance to be the crown jewel stadium of MLS.
but - i think it would probably cost close to 2 billion to do something like that olympic stadium here in NYC. so, sadly, i think we'll get something pretty generic with bits of flare.
I was wondering the same thing -- with everything just labeled as a concept, how close are the concepts to the actual stadiums built?
They can be very different. This looks like one of those generic concepts, something which fits and has a couple key elements. But the ultimate design may or may not look anything like it.
I think the rest of the development, meaning the residential units, are probably really close to what they're actually intending to build. There are a lot of very detailed conceptual drawings. But the fact nothing was unveiled today tells me the design hasn't been done yet, probably because the architects needed to know the exact location.
the one thing i think we can gleam form the concepts is the shape of the stadium. We know the footprint it needs to fit so maybe it could look like that shape. Also the partners really trend to lean on populous so they might be brought in.
So, when we move to Queens in '27, does the Hudson River Derby still work?
Kenny told us just this week not to rely on the specifics in the renderings because they're not actual yet.
You always had to cross more bodies of water than the Hudson to get from RBA to Yankee Stadium unless you took the long way round looping above Manhattan..
yup, the main thing dividing NYCFC and the Red Bulls is still the Hudson River.
I'm almost certain they'll be the architects. And they're good.
I learned a few things while covering the GlobalFoundries Fab 8 project in Malta, N.Y. over a decade ago. One of them was how much the footprint affects the ultimate design. In GF's case, the original conceptual drawings were just supposed to give the Town Board an idea of the scale of the project and a general idea what it would look like. The lot was supposed to be on the east side of Luther Forest.
As it turned out, the plant had to be built on the west side due to the geography and the need for extensive water supply. And that meant orienting the building at a different angle to the Sun, which led to some other changes.
The final renderings were part of the zoning application, and those were the ones which looked like the facility they ultimately built. They roughly looked like the original drawings. But if you put the two sets of renderings side by side, you'd think they were two different projects. Both were clearly industrial plants and they looked kind of similar. A lot of the general features were the same (form follows function). In overall appearance though, at least in terms of the external view, they were pretty dramatically different.
1627 days, and 232 weeks until May 1, 2027. (Randomly pick May 1, 2027 as it is a Saturday) and guessing the stadium won't be ready for the season opener.
get a countdown clock going on the home page!
Oof - according to nycfc website, ulurp is going to start "Before the end of 2023" - that sounds like a long time before it "starts" lol.
Mid 2027 - late 2027 sounds like
Mid 2027 - late 2027 sounds like
if we open any time in 2027, i'd call it a success. the way construction goes in NYC, i wouldn't be shocked if it gets delayed to 2028 or even 2029.
Ugh. You had “etched in brick” right there in front of you and you just walked right by!!! LOL
I'll always be an etched in stone kind of guy.
