Nicolas Acevedo tore his ACL last week with Bahia. So if he were to return, he's going to miss the 2024 season.
2024 Roster and Transfer Discussion Thread
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Well that sucks.
To recap. We loaned him out for one year. The announcement makes no mention of a fee. There probably was one, but nothing substantial. We certainly received nothing we can use in the MLS salary structure. Lee says the benefit to NYCFC was it gives them "flexibility as we continue to build the roster ahead of the 2023 season." NYCFC used that flexibility to carry a half-empty roster for 70% of 2023. Now he's back for 2024 and cannot play, but counts against the cap. Fortunately his 2023 total comp was just $274.8k, so maybe just around $300k in 2024 unless Lee pulls some magic or Bahia exercised some option that wasn't announced before he was hurt.
I'm sorry he's hurt. It sucks more for him than the team, and certainly more than it does for us as fans. And to be fair, he wasn't what was missing last year. But this loan move worked out about as poorly as possible for NYCFC.
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There are rules for season-ending injuries, though at such a low salary charge it may not be worth it. From the MLS Roster Rules page:
Thanks. I knew there was some method for handling it, but also remembered it never seems to get used due to its limitations. I think it makes sense to use it on Acevedo unless someone more expensive gets injured before the season starts. I agree it's not a major savings, but keeping it in reserve in case someone else gets hurt seems unlikely to pay off.
I don't think they would use it on him. ACL is often a 6-month recovery. He could be playing again as early as June. I think of the season ending injury rule as something clubs are more likely to use to bolster the squad for a second half run. More talent is available in summer. Carrying a non-playing Acevedo for the first half of the season while the team is figuring out who they have with the rest of the roster isn't a huge risk.
It's more than 6 months, I think. Heber tore his ACL on September 23, 2020, and didn't make his next appearance until September 14, 2021.
Maybe some players can return a little faster than that, but it's certainly longer than 6 months.
Really depends on the player and the age. Acevedo is much younger than Heber. Jerry Rice famously returned in 3 months. Though I think he quickly retore his ACL. So not a great inspiration there. But still, 3 months.
Sebastian Blanco, 30-something at the time, came back too soon and had to go back to rehab, though I don't think he re-tore it.
Josef Martinez was 26 when he tore his ACL on 2/29/2020 and he missed the entire season, and was never the same after coming back.
Besides age and fitness, I'm pretty sure there are ACL tears and then there are ACL tears. And we don't know what kind Nico (24) has. Hoping for the best.
I think there are many differences between ACL injuries that can affect how long someone is out. Certainly other parts of the knee can be injured too (MCL, meniscus, etc.), and I think the ACL itself can tear in more or less severe ways. There are also differences in rehab and a player's commitment to it.
Nine months is about right. Anywhere from 6-12 months is common. Three months is absurd.
Nine months is about right. Anywhere from 6-12 months is common. Three months is absurd.
I'm not expecting Maxi back until late next season, and I don't think we should have any expectation of Nico playing in 2024 if he were to return. Maybe Maxi comes back in June or July, but maybe he's not back until September. Same with Acevedo. Maybe he can play in September, but rushing it can cause other issues.
And so, Silly Season begins
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And so, Silly Season begins
New York City Football Club Acquires International Roster Spots From Nashville SC | New York City FC
New York City Football Club (NYCFC) today announced that the Club has traded $325,000 in 2024 General Allocation Money (GAM) to Nashville SC in exchange for two International Roster Spots for 2024. Transaction: New York City Football Club acquire two International Roster Spots for 2024 from...
now we wait and see if they actually use them. glad for the news though. quiet time has me anxious. haha
2023 Internationals. I believe Cufre's the only departure so far, although who knows what'll happen to Maxi's spot.And so, Silly Season begins
New York City Football Club Acquires International Roster Spots From Nashville SC | New York City FC
New York City Football Club (NYCFC) today announced that the Club has traded $325,000 in 2024 General Allocation Money (GAM) to Nashville SC in exchange for two International Roster Spots for 2024. Transaction: New York City Football Club acquire two International Roster Spots for 2024 from...
I think Acevedo needs an international slot. Unless I missed that he got a green card. If so, that's an additional $160k in cap costs on top of his salary.
I was going to ask if these are to cover current internationals or if this is to help bring someone else in. I figured some of y'all roster nerds would know the answer lol.
If that's the case, that would leave the other one open still? I can't imagine we'd pay $160k for an international spot if we weren't going to use it or just to keep a player who won't play for most of the season...?
I think they probably have plans but it's also a low risk proposition because they probably can sell it for ~same price if they don't need it.
Acevedo doesn't need an international slot as long as he's loaned out, and the team only has to be roster compliant on opening day so if he returns, they're not automatically over the allowance until opening day.
Because MLS's website is about as useful as hemorrhoids, Talles Magno isn't listed as an international. But I believe he is.
Is there a realistic scenario where he is not back, outside of using the season-ending injury roster mechanism on him? Might as well get the International slot now.
It's a bit weird that Maxi hasn't gotten a green card yet. Maybe DPs can't get them for some reason. He's no longer a DP now, but the consecutive years of residency are gone.
