2019 Schedule Thread

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FredMertz

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Ok. That’s for our personal accounting and later conversation with the IRS. But what is the team charging us when we sell each match? The amortized amount or the fluctuating price? Do we know?
Why is the team paying or charging you anything when you sell a match? Or do you mean how much do they credit you when you trade in a match? On the trade in, you get a fluctuating price based on which of what is likely to be 3 tiers of game it falls under.

Making up round numbers, if your tickets are $40 average, they'll give you $30 credit for a C game, $40 for a B and $50 for an A.
 

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Why is the team paying or charging you anything when you sell a match? Or do you mean how much do they credit you when you trade in a match? On the trade in, you get a fluctuating price based on which of what is likely to be 3 tiers of game it falls under.

Making up round numbers, if your tickets are $40 average, they'll give you $30 credit for a C game, $40 for a B and $50 for an A.
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The extra midweek games this year have absolutely nothing to do with CFG/Yankees and everything to do with the fact that the season was just trimmed by three weeks.
Scrolling through the full MLS schedule, there are tons of midweek games, and most of the time we have one it is alongside several other teams. Almost every week after the first few has at least one midweek game and several have almost a full slate.
It's Yankee Stadium, and it's not even debatable. The information is in this thread, posted less than a week ago:
 

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We have 7 midweek games (Tues-Thurs)

The next closest is 4 midweek games. (shared by 6 teams)
 
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We have 7 midweek games (Tues-Thurs)

The next closest is 4 midweek games. (shared by 6 teams)
But no midweek matches away. We probably have the same amount of midweek matches as the rest of the league, ours are just home loaded. Which I would think would be an advantage due to lack of midweek travel.
 
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But no midweek matches away. We probably have the same amount of midweek matches as the rest of the league, ours are just home loaded. Which I would think would be an advantage due to lack of midweek travel.
It doesn’t matter if there’s no midweek travel if the games before/after are away. It’s the same logistics just shifted in front/back by a few days.
 

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I understand all of the things you are saying and don't disagree with any of it, but I can't tie them together in to a compelling reason why this benefits us. Maybe your point is that it's better than not having any program (agreed), but I don't see how it is an improvement over last year's program. Getting the trade-in price is definitely better than taking a loss on sale in the open market (which I did for virtually every game I sold on Stubhub last year with 1st-row main level seats), but if you have to pay the surcharge or premium, it's not better than last year's even trades. Maybe the lower face value will let us go lower with our Stubhub listings and minimize the chances of no sale, but that's not much to write home about.

Part of the benefit of being a STH is not being subject to supply and demand for the games you go to. This system lets them charge lower prices for the crappy games (thus competing better with secondary market listings) and hypothetically raises the floor for the better games -- but we're season ticket holders who are more likely than not to go to all the better games!
I think it's only better than last year's program if they do implement what I noted above, in regards to your end of season balance being able to roll over and apply to next year's season tickets, or single game tickets. That way the value of those that you trade-in more accurately reflects what the market would pay. If they don't implement this, then I agree with you, though I think what they are putting in is completely fair and reasonable.

The mistake that was made was switching to the program they had last year where everything had equal value and now switching to this. I think it would have made a lot more sense to move from Year 1 where they blacked out the big games from being able to trade into, to this year's setup.
 

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I think it's only better than last year's program if they do implement what I noted above, in regards to your end of season balance being able to roll over and apply to next year's season tickets, or single game tickets. That way the value of those that you trade-in more accurately reflects what the market would pay. If they don't implement this, then I agree with you, though I think what they are putting in is completely fair and reasonable.

The mistake that was made was switching to the program they had last year where everything had equal value and now switching to this. I think it would have made a lot more sense to move from Year 1 where they blacked out the big games from being able to trade into, to this year's setup.
They didn’t really enforce the blackout, though...
 

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They didn’t really enforce the blackout, though...
Really?

I wasn't able to trade-in to the blacked out games. Granted, my trying stopped at finding out I couldn't do it on the website, so I didn't really attempt to go to my rep or anything further.
 

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I think it's only better than last year's program if they do implement what I noted above, in regards to your end of season balance being able to roll over and apply to next year's season tickets, or single game tickets. That way the value of those that you trade-in more accurately reflects what the market would pay. If they don't implement this, then I agree with you, though I think what they are putting in is completely fair and reasonable.

The mistake that was made was switching to the program they had last year where everything had equal value and now switching to this. I think it would have made a lot more sense to move from Year 1 where they blacked out the big games from being able to trade into, to this year's setup.
If they let you credit the excess to next year’s tickets, they’d essentially be buying back your tickets for cash, which would be a huge mistake for them. Every STH would be able to essentially pick and choose games in a half-year plan while paying full-year plan pricing. It would kill the midweek attendance for sure.
 
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If they let you credit the excess to next year’s tickets, they’d essentially be buying back your tickets for cash, which would be a huge mistake for them. Every STH would be able to essentially pick and choose games in a half-year plan while paying full-year plan pricing. It would kill the midweek attendance for sure.
Yeah, that's a possibility, and I'm sure some could and would take advantage of that, but I doubt that would the reason that kills midweek attendance.

Most STH's buy season tickets because they want to go to all the games.
 

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Really?

I wasn't able to trade-in to the blacked out games. Granted, my trying stopped at finding out I couldn't do it on the website, so I didn't really attempt to go to my rep or anything further.
I sent in the trade ins early on, and it gave a warning, but didn’t actually stop you from proceeding.
 
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